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Old 11-24-09, 04:11 PM   #1
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Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist - Iraq | War | Map - FOXNews.com


Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges, sources told FoxNews.com.
The three, all members of the Navy's elite commando unit, have refused non-judicial punishment — called an admiral's mast — and have requested a trial by court-martial.



This is absolutely disgusting and will only serve to put our service members in further danger by making them ever more hesitant and second guessing of their actions.

I LOVE the part about refusing NJP. Anyone who has served or is familiar with this procedure I think will also appreciate how they didn't just bend over.





Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named "Objective Amber," told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the bloody lip to prove it.


I could understand if he was tortured or raped, but a bloody lip? The detainee probably tried spitting on the SEAL or commented on how he was glad the four members of Blackwater were strung up and burned (one of which was a former SEAL, and the youngest SEAL in history) and then took a punch to the face.


What a joke, where does this end? What a horrible slippery slope this incident is creating.
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

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Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist - Iraq | War | Map - FOXNews.com


Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges, sources told FoxNews.com.
The three, all members of the Navy's elite commando unit, have refused non-judicial punishment — called an admiral's mast — and have requested a trial by court-martial.



This is absolutely disgusting and will only serve to put our service members in further danger by making them ever more hesitant and second guessing of their actions.

I LOVE the part about refusing NJP. Anyone who has served or is familiar with this procedure I think will also appreciate how they didn't just bend over.





Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named "Objective Amber," told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the bloody lip to prove it.


I could understand if he was tortured or raped, but a bloody lip? The detainee probably tried spitting on the SEAL or commented on how he was glad the four members of Blackwater were strung up and burned (one of which was a former SEAL, and the youngest SEAL in history) and then took a punch to the face.


What a joke, where does this end? What a horrible slippery slope this incident is creating.
I hope those three win. THis is why I think military investigators or who ever brings up charges should have combat experience themselves because I do not think anyone in a combat MOS would ever take the word of some scumbag over that of a fellow service members.
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

I predict that absolutely nothing will come of this.........
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

I suspect there is more to the story than we know. Let's look at the charges:

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Matthew McCabe, a Special Operations Petty Officer Second Class (SO-2), is facing three charges: dereliction of performance of duty for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee, making a false official statement, and assault.

Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe, SO-2, is facing charges of dereliction of performance of duty and making a false official statement.

Petty Officer Julio Huertas, SO-1, faces those same charges and an additional charge of impediment of an investigation.
From that, I would guess that the reason they where charged is not that they roughed him up a bit, but that they lied about it.
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

que Cawtaba, supporting this in 3.2.1......
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From that, I would guess that the reason they where charged is not that they roughed him up a bit, but that they lied about it.
They should have never been placed in a situation where they thought needed to cover their asses.
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

What a ridiculous charge. Seriously, punching the guy in the face???

Though they shouldn't have lied about it I suppose.
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What a ridiculous charge. Seriously, punching the guy in the face???

Though they shouldn't have lied about it I suppose.
They shouldn't have felt the need to lie about it.

But, what with soldiers being charged with war crimes, over the simplest silly ****, of course they would be afraid to be totally honest about what happened.
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They should have never been placed in a situation where they thought needed to cover their asses.
I never said otherwise. What I said is we do not have the whole story, so I am not rushing to condemn anyone.
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Is there some clause that Mass Murderers are not allowed to be punched in the facial structure?
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