The Prof

sincerely i say to my friends on the other side---

i'm not primarily scoring political points

i'm stating simply that the prez has painted himself into an inescapable corner

let points accrue from that obvious reality where they will fall, if you must

sorry

afghanistan is killing this president, ask his base, and it's only gonna get worse

it is what it is

if you ask, what would i, The pompous Prof, do over there, or what i thought of bush's labors...

i'd answer, who cares

our opinions, yours and mine, don't really amount to much

it's all on the president

it's just the way it is

pray for our soldiers, our nation, our enemies (if you are as i inclined) and our poor, perplexed president

Aunt Spiker

I'd be ****ing thrilled if we did.

But that's just me. . . .my husband's currently undeployable - what he does it take care of those who don't come back all in one piece (mentally, emotionally, etc). So any increase in troop activity ultimately leads to an increase in his work-related affairs, which leads to an increase in missions and aways, which leads to stress at home . . . and so on, so forth.

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Jackboot

I would as well, we did what we came to do, our mission is over, we won.

liblady

unless we do control afghanistan completely and totally, for a very long period of time, nothing will change. and even if we do, we still run the risk of nothing changing.

so, maybe a wasteland wouldn't have been a bad idea.

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liblady

i can't imagine what that's like.

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liblady

so you're for staying indefinitely?

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RightinNYC

And now McClatchey and others are claiming that "finish the job" means "34,000 more troops"

Obama plans to send 34,000 more troops to Afghanistan | McClatchy

Obama's come out to deny every one of these trial balloons so far, so I'm not putting much stock in this one yet.

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Aunt Spiker

Aside my personal beef with the man....

Part of the problem - and hinderance - is that what we're really trying to do is take a country and a people who are use to ____ type of lifestyle, and giving them a new lifestyle.

Some like it
Some don't care
Some don't like it
some reaaaaaly don't like it.

We're fighting the people who really don't like it and along the way we have to try to make the don't cares and don't like it's - well - like it or at least accept it.

It's not just like we're going in and plucking out the foul fools - no one would complain about that - we're altering the way they've lived and existed as a whole people for who knows how long.

Sometimes change comes smoothly and sometimes it doesn't. . .and we're in the "it doesn't" situation with all of this right now.

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Erod

Also, where would you have launched these bombs from? You can't just send missiles over the top of countries without their permission. You need a base to work from.

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Erod

No, but I'm not leaving just because it's "hard". The more dedicated we are to it, the shorter it'll be.

For that matter, we're still in Germany. We're still in Korea. We're still in Japan.

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