Polynikes

Here is the same lawyer mentioned in the OP being interviewed by O'Reilly.

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SE102

This is a joke right? Okay its a joke.

No, they are available to everyone who wants them. You cannot "add" more abu-ghraib to the internet and a greater occurrence of abu ghraib photos on the internet isnt likely to sway anyone more than it already has.

So the terrorists are going to draw cartoons making fun of muslims and they're going to rile up a bunch of muslims with it who are going to make an angry mob and start killing people?

And now they're going to violate the koran in front of everyone and make muslims into dangerous people?

Considering you're setting your own traps upon yourself and might realize you are in fact becoming the rodent in your avatar I suggest you change it before you make the connection and go into a psychosis.

Redress

Nicely insulting, but it's still you cowering in fear. Terrorists do not scare me. Ideas and words do not scare me. You cannot show any proof that trying a terrorist makes a terror attack more likely, nor have you. Try being less insulting and think a bit more.

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Mason66

The terrorists already claimed they were responsible and wanted to die but now they are going to pleade not guilty just to have the platform to rail against the US.

If Holder has already gaurenteed the conviction, which he did, why even have the trial.

The world will just say it was fixed anyway so the US will look even worse.

I don't think anything that these terrorists want should be given to them.

Since the trial will go on and it will be broadcast on every channel in the country we will just have to wait and see what happens.

Agent Ferris

The Constitution is not an international treaty sport.

It's clear from your statements that you believe that this should be a trial of the U.S. and not the terrorists who murdered 3,000 U.S. civilians.

Provide evidence of a systematic genocide perpetrated by the U.S..

Yes the Islamic conquerors who now rule Afghanistan perpetrated massive genocide and forced population transfers on the indigenous peoples of the Indian subcontinent. In fact prior to Stalin and Hitler this was the largest genocide in history.

In Vietnam the U.S. was in a legitimate military conflict against communist aggression.

The U.S. doesn't target civilians.

Was a legitimate military target and there were no civilians present as at that time Germany was engaged in total war.

Was a legitimate military target and there were no civilians present as at that time Japan was engaged in total war.

A) There was at least one attack on a U.S. ship in the Gulf of Tonkin, and the Gulf of Tonkin was only a precursor to escalation in a war which had already begun and which had been started by the communists.

B) All 16 members of the U.S. intelligence community as well as numerous foreign intelligence agencies believed Saddam had WMD, a lie implies intent to deceive. And; furthermore, Iraq had been collaborating with Islamist terrorists (including AQ affiliates) to attack the U.S. right up until the fall of Baghdad and had perpetrated numerous acts of war against the U.S..

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Trials by military tribunal are not antithetical to those concepts. But ya I suppose in your assbackwards worldview unlawful alien combatants have an unalienable right to a platform to justify the murder of 3,000 U.S. civilians.


Once again why do you believe that these people have a right to a platform from which to launch anti-American propaganda, and justify the murder of 3,000 U.S. civilians?

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texmaster

Pot meet kettle

I'm the one backing up my claims with real facts and links to them. You've provided nothing but theory.

Some people are brave, others are just too stupid to be afraid.
Philip R. Breeze

Not only have I given examples of attacks based on the teaching of hate but specific examples of single incidents that have sparked hate in others where people have died.

You have provided nothing. Zip, zero nada to support your claim.

And instead of being brave enough to challenge my examples, you ignore them then lie and claim that I have provided nothing.

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Redress

Your proof is would be like me linking to youtube and saying it proves I am right. The problem is not your sources, but that what you think they prove is not what they prove. You have shown no evidence that giving this guy a trial is going to let him reach any one who would not already be reached by terrorists, nor that it is in any way likely that any one who does read what he has to say will actually attack Americans over it.

You seem to think that since people who commit terrorist acts communicate with terrorists, that means that communicating with terrorists is the root cause. You make assumptions as to where they get their motivation, and press that assumption as fact, and look for facts to fit that assumption. I prefer to look at facts, and try and draw conclusions based on those facts. I see that we have safely tried terrorists, I see that anything this guy is likely to say is already out there, and I therefore believe that trying this guy is not going to make us less secure.

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earthworm

No, men live and die on "words".
No, as well, to these suspected murderers, on their proposed airing to what amounts to hatred.
This we do not need.
If they had done the same to Russia or India or China, do you even think they would still be alive - now ??
We must STOP bending over backward to these Islamic extremeists...
Years ago, they should have been release to the wilds of Afghanistan and then hunted down and shot like the worthless animals they are.
And I do not mean to abase animals so....

Redress

Trying, convicting, and executing is not "bending over backwards" for them. Nor do I think we should base our actions on what another country would do.

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earthworm

Allowing the Islamic infamous four to express their hatred in the NYC court is bending, as well allowing that homicidal major to even be in our Army..
Oftentimes, I believe the FBI is useless and should be disbanded.They claim "underfunding", which may well be...