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12 dead, as many as 31 injured in Fort Hood shootings

Ethereal said:
I heard some unofficial reports that an accomplice (who is in custody) fired upon SWAT officers, while another accomplice is supposedly at large. If true, this was a coordinated attack.
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I heard the same thing a few hours ago, but it looks like that was incorrect. The general giving the news conference said that all the shooting was done by Hasan and that the two who were taken into custody were suspects.
 
The silenced majority said:
No, its because he works for SaudiNews and cant report the truth due to the possible repercussions.

Kudos to CNN! (I cant believe I said that).
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Shep is just doing the smart thing and waiting for a confirmation from official sources.
 
Re: 7 dead as many as a dozen hurt in Fort Hood shootings

MyOwnDrum said:
It seems quite unlikely that this wasn't a terrorist act.
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Time will tell on that one though. No point in jumping the gun and engaging in reckless speculation.
 
I find it strange that this happened as the media was starting to report on the successful Patriotic Rally at the Capitol today opposing Obamacare organized by Michelle Bachmann. The Usurper must be glad this happened.
 
David Duke is Right said:
I find it strange that this happened as the media was starting to report on the successful Patriotic Rally at the Capitol today opposing Obamacare organized by Michelle Bachmann. The Usurper must be glad this happened.
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Great logic! Glad to see you didn't lose any of that biting wit during your hate speech suspension.
 
I highly doubt anyone is happy about an attack on our military personal the likes of which just took place.
 
The silenced majority said:
I just watched him interview KB Hutchison and the PC hand wringing was nauseating as if they really didn't want to believe its true.

Hassan Akbar anyone?
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Great point, it would be much better if they just came out and claimed that it was a secret muslim terrorist conspiracy. **** that "evidence" bull****.
 
RT @abcnewsradio We can confirm that the Ft Hood victims were getting ready to deploy to Iraq...

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And FNC's Steve Centanni just released Hasan's name as the 40 year old shooter.
 
A word about the term "wounded"

I'd like to bring up a point for those of you who have never been involved with providing medical care.

The term "wounded" is often misleading in major traumas such as shootings. The natural and understandable tendency is to think in terms of injury and healing. Often this is the case, but also often, people never fully or even nearly recover completely from these injuries.

Because the victims and their families don't generally wish to live in a long term spotlight, public attention soon wanes. We should bear in mind that in all likelihood, a significant number of the survivors will have had their lives devastated, and the quality of those lives vastly and permanently diminished.
 
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GySgt, or anyone else with military experience... can someone tell me how these men could be at large on a military base for so long, and killing so many people? I'm sorry if this comes across as ignorant, but shouldn't a military base already be swarming with armed personnel? How could a small number of people bamboozle the entire base like this?

I just looked up Ft. Hood and I read that it has over 30,000 stationed personnel.
 
Oftencold said:
I'd like to bring up a point for those of you who have never been involved with providing medical care.

The term "wounded" is often misleading in major traumas such as shootings. The natural and understandable tendency is to think in terms of injury and healing. Often this is the case, but also often, people never fully or even nearly recover completely from these injuries.

Because the victims and their families don't generally wish to live in a long term spotlight, public attention soon wanes. We should bear in mind that in all likelihood, a significant number of the survivors will have had their lives devastated, and the quality of those lives vastly diminished permanently.
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I also heard something saying that the injured number may include people who were not shot, but who were injured fleeing the scene, so that's a possible plus.

Orius said:
GySgt, or anyone else with military experience... can someone tell me how these men could be at large on a military base for so long, and killing so many people? I'm sorry if this comes across as ignorant, but shouldn't a military base already be swarming with armed personnel? How could a small number of people bamboozle the entire base like this?

I just looked up Ft. Hood and I read that it has over 30,000 stationed personnel.
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Just going off what I heard, but it doesn't seem too absurd to imagine someone being able to do this in a crowded room if there aren't guns handy. I imagine there weren't too many armed guards posted in a dental facility/processing center/whatever this was, so the shooter was probably the only one with a loaded weapon.

It also looks like this wasn't as much of an extended shootout as was reported. According to the general's press conference, the shooter was taken down relatively quickly, and most of the rest of the commotion was based on detaining the other suspects, who supposedly didn't shoot anyone.
 
David Duke is Right said:
I find it strange that this happened as the media was starting to report on the successful Patriotic Rally at the Capitol today opposing Obamacare organized by Michelle Bachmann. The Usurper must be glad this happened.
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I find it strange that you would make such a nonsensical statement.
 
The silenced majority said:
Its just a big coincidence right?
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We don't know yet. That's sort of how responsible journalism works.

Im allowed to speculate adolf.

Go shine your boots or something.
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You can speculate about whatever you want. Just don't whine when others don't feel like following suit.
 
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Orius said:
GySgt, or anyone else with military experience... can someone tell me how these men could be at large on a military base for so long, and killing so many people? I'm sorry if this comes across as ignorant, but shouldn't a military base already be swarming with armed personnel? How could a small number of people bamboozle the entire base like this?

I just looked up Ft. Hood and I read that it has over 30,000 stationed personnel.
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Not everyone is walking around with weapons on hand. They live on base and most of their weapons are locked up in the armoury. It's not terribly difficult to get the jump on them.
 
Orius said:
GySgt, or anyone else with military experience... can someone tell me how these men could be at large on a military base for so long, and killing so many people? I'm sorry if this comes across as ignorant, but shouldn't a military base already be swarming with armed personnel? How could a small number of people bamboozle the entire base like this?

I just looked up Ft. Hood and I read that it has over 30,000 stationed personnel.
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Only MPs are armed, all other arms are stored in locked rooms.
 
Orius said:
GySgt, or anyone else with military experience... can someone tell me how these men could be at large on a military base for so long, and killing so many people? I'm sorry if this comes across as ignorant, but shouldn't a military base already be swarming with armed personnel? How could a small number of people bamboozle the entire base like this?

I just looked up Ft. Hood and I read that it has over 30,000 stationed personnel.
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It only takes a few seconds to shoot fifty rounds using two weapons and reloading them and weapons are secured on post. And only LEO's have weapons readily available and loaded, generally.
 
American said:
Only MPs are armed, all other arms are stored in locked rooms.
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That's what I heard one of the news stations say, can't remember which one.
 
The fact that the guy's a Major is really surprising, to me.

How many years do you serve (generally) before you can attain the rank of Major?
 
The silenced majority said:
And once we find out, it will be swept under the rug... just like Hassan Akbar - point made.
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How exactly was that case swept under the rug? I remember reading about the incident, the later prosecution, and the guilty verdict. It was on the front page of the NYT and WashPost.

Rather than jumping into a ridiculous rant about the evil coverup that you think will happen, how about you sit back and watch what actually happens?
 
Orius said:
. . .but shouldn't a military base already be swarming with armed personnel?
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No. On base, personnel are not usually armed, especially not in the States.

Further, even if everyone at the the sight were armed, 30 people could be shot in a few seconds.

It also appears the the shooter was a soldier himself, and FOX just published the main (dead) shooter's name. It is almost certainly a Muslim name. This suggests certain obvious possibilities.
 
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