Top Revolutionary Guard commanders assassinated

reefedjib · 10-19-09, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Elena

My point is this: your country, your country's power clans to be precise, are setting the whole world on fire, waging wars, killing and maiming in the name of their greed (not freedom, or democracy, or human rights). Their greed is not to be mistaken for the US interests since, as their profits rise, your average Joe has to foot the bill. You can continue to call your country a custodian of world's security, but the world on whom this "security" was bestowed see your country as a duplicitous bully.

Standard leftist claptrap. We are indeed fighting to spread freedom and democracy and human rights. I see this happening in Iraq, where the populace is educated and the economy developed. I am much more skeptical about Afghanistan and think we should get out. Democracy doesn't seem to take root there. We may be viewed as a bully, but it isn't the cold war anymore. We will act.

apdst · 10-19-09, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Elena
My point is this: your country, your country's power clans to be precise, are setting the whole world on fire, waging wars, killing and maiming in the name of their greed (not freedom, or democracy, or human rights). Their greed is not to be mistaken for the US interests since, as their profits rise, your average Joe has to foot the bill. You can continue to call your country a custodian of world's security, but the world on whom this "security" was bestowed see your country as a duplicitous bully.

But, we're not the ones that start the trouble. It's always someone else. The Iranian government brought this bombing on themselves, whether the US is involved, or not.

rogerredy · 10-19-09, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Elena

"elected" US glove puppet government.

Something tells me that someone who genuinely "grew up" in the soviet union would not make an idiotic statement like this, or some of the others you seem to be offering. I directly question your claims of origin...

Catz Part Deux · 10-19-09, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Elena

It is premature to speculate of the US involvement, but this involvement is very probable.

VERY PROBABLE, based upon something posted on another forum? Very probable in YOUR mind because that's what you wish to believe. Way to jump to conclusions and a completely indefensible argument.

Evidence that we are involved? Please put it up or shut up.

SE102 · 10-19-09, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rogerredy

Something tells me that someone who genuinely "grew up" in the soviet union would not make an idiotic statement like this, or some of the others you seem to be offering. I directly question your claims of origin...

Because you have the cultural familiarity with former soviet citizens to make that kind of claim. Because its extremely obvious that you don't know what you're talking about whatsoever. You assume to know what former soviets would and would not think politically, I assume you believe that they should follow a revisionist mindset that aligns with your impressions of the Soviet Union?

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VERY PROBABLE, based upon something posted on another forum? Very probable in YOUR mind because that's what you wish to believe. Way to jump to conclusions and a completely indefensible argument.

Evidence that we are involved? Please put it up or shut up.

It's just about as out there as some of the common statements I see on this forum.

rogerredy · 10-19-09, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SE102

Because you have the cultural familiarity with former soviet citizens to make that kind of claim. Because its extremely obvious that you don't know what you're talking about whatsoever. You assume to know what former soviets would and would not think politically, I assume you believe that they should follow a revisionist mindset that aligns with your impressions of the Soviet Union?

Since you KNOW NOTHING about me, you can STFU RIGHT NOW.

I grew up in Russia, so you can be REAL quiet, RIGHT NOW.

Noone who grew up in the USSR can possibly be as far left as that poster is claiming. If you did know anything, or anyone who is polish, ukrainian, etc., they are HUGE US supporters (at least until the idiot Obama bent over for putin and pulled the missile defense last week).

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It's just about as out there as some of the common statements I see on this forum.

Another person living in a house without a mirror...

SE102 · 10-19-09, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rogerredy

Since you KNOW NOTHING about me, you can STFU RIGHT NOW.

I grew up in Russia, so you can be REAL quiet, RIGHT NOW.

Noone who grew up in the USSR can possibly be as far left as that poster is claiming. If you did know anything, or anyone who is polish, ukrainian, etc., they are HUGE US supporters (at least until the idiot Obama bent over for putin and pulled the missile defense last week).

Another person living in a house without a mirror...

She lives in england... dood

or shall I say.... чувак

Russians Russians everywhere... hrrm.
I question the degree of your enculturation.

Elena · 10-20-09, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by apdst

You just described how America's enemies do business.

You are not refering to your official conspiracy theory on 9/11, are you?

Elena · 10-20-09, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Red_Dave

Were the elections not adequate in your view?

My view is irrelevant. They were not adequate in the eyes of Iraqis.

Elena · 10-20-09, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by reefedjib

Standard leftist claptrap. We are indeed fighting to spread freedom and democracy and human rights. I see this happening in Iraq, where the populace is educated and the economy developed. I am much more skeptical about Afghanistan and think we should get out. Democracy doesn't seem to take root there. We may be viewed as a bully, but it isn't the cold war anymore. We will act.

You are a standup comedian, and I claim my £5!

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