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Old 07-22-09, 09:50 AM   #11
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Re: Obama may have to wait for health care passage

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This is a lie...


This is the democrat, daily kooks, Obama talking point. Disagreeing with you is not removing themselves "from the conversation" (quoted as this has been the talking point for days now).....
No, as usual you are the liar. The evidence of Republican determination to delay the health care bill on principle has been documented.

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Internal RNC Memo: "Engage In Every Activity" To Slow Down Health Care Reform
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Old 07-22-09, 09:51 AM   #12
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Re: Obama may have to wait for health care passage

do you have anything other than the huffington post which is the WND of the left?
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My point exactly. The Republican position is clear. They have removed themselves from the conversation, so Congress should make no further attempts to include them, rather should reject all Republican opinion as counter-productive, as it is designed to be.
Uh, no. Democrats are derailing this, too, if you're paying proper attention. One day perhaps you'll thank them from saving you from this disaster.
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Old 07-22-09, 09:54 AM   #14
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Uh, no. Democrats are derailing this, too, if you're paying proper attention. One day perhaps you'll thank them from saving you from this disaster.


Hoyer Says House May Leave Before Health-Care Vote (Update3) - Bloomberg.com

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Senator: Democrats ‘baffled’ by president’s health care stance - Blogs from CNN.com



He chooses not to see the big picture and only focus on his "opposition"...
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Old 07-22-09, 09:55 AM   #15
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No, as usual you are the liar. The evidence of Republican determination to delay the health care bill on principle has been documented.
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So slowing down a legislative process where lawmakers do not even bother to read the legislation on which they are voting, while expanding the discussion to include alternatives, is not being part of the discussion?

So anything that is not "Yes, Dear Leader" is not a welcome part of legislative debate for you?

This healthcare monstrosity is a bad idea. It costs money, reduces care, increases bureaucracy. It accomplishes none of what was promised while delivering everything that Dear Leader pledged to avoid.

This bill is bad. Anyone who is in favor of this bill is in favor of bankrupting this country, because that is exactly what this bill will do.

Why do you want to bankrupt America?
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do you have anything other than the huffington post which is the WND of the left?
Do you have evidence the story is untrue? I didn't think so.
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Republicans calling for "more time" only want to kill health care reform. Since they refuse to help craft a perfect bill, Democrats should railroad through whatever they can pass, then fix it after it becomes law. Bipartisanship is not working, so Republicans should be thrown under the bus.
Bipartisanship is not working because liberals (such as yourself) do not understand what bipartisanship is.
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The only "perfect" healthcare reform bill is the one that is not passed. The Republicans are doing the right thing and looking to stop this insanity.
Correct. When what the other side wants to do is so impossibly heinous, the only worthwhile course of action is to stop it cold.
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My point exactly. The Republican position is clear. They have removed themselves from the conversation, so Congress should make no further attempts to include them, rather should reject all Republican opinion as counter-productive, as it is designed to be.
Um...
You DO know that the GOP is not holding this, up, right?
That the GOP cannot stop this, that only Democrats can?
And so, any delay or defeat can only be blamed on Democrats?

Of course you do- -- but you're FAR to partisan and FAR too bigoted to admit it.
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Re: Obama may have to wait for health care passage

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My point exactly. The Republican position is clear. They have removed themselves from the conversation, so Congress should make no further attempts to include them, rather should reject all Republican opinion as counter-productive, as it is designed to be.
You're exactly right. So, when the healthcare circus gets cranked up, it will be placed souly at the Democrats's doorstep.
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