Senate Bill Fines People More Than $1,000 for Refusing Health Care Coverage

Harry Guerrilla · 07-11-09, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldenboy219

The only other option is for the AMA to allow more doctors. But again, that could have its own unintended consequences, specifically decrease in quality.

Another thing is how we educate doctors.

It is completely antiquated and time consuming for no reason.

formerroadie · 07-11-09, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by phattonez

They don't deserve the labor of others. The world owes us nothing.

An unethical and frankly inhuman worldview. The world owes us nothing.... ok, I can buy that as it is stated, but you infer that we must be disconnected from our fellow human beings, particularly financially. Sorry. Don't buy it. It's an immoral way to live.

phattonez · 07-11-09, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by formerroadie

An unethical and frankly inhuman worldview. The world owes us nothing.... ok, I can buy that as it is stated, but you infer that we must be disconnected from our fellow human beings, particularly financially. Sorry. Don't buy it. It's an immoral way to live.

Not wanting to help other people is immoral, but when I force people to pay money to them it's an immoral act on my part.

danarhea · 07-12-09, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by scourge99

If you aren't going to be part of the health care solution then you are part of the problem.

Wrong. It has nothing to do with the health care solution. People like THIS are what is part of the problem:

Harry Guerrilla · 07-12-09, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by danarhea

Wrong. It has nothing to do with the health care solution. People like THIS are what is part of the problem:

I swear I see this almost everyday I go to work, although they aren't in the Burger King drive thru.

Polimaster · 07-12-09, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by UtahBill

Are you assuming that the money saved will be spent going to college?
My experience is that MOST people in good health who do not have health insurance are spending the money on non-essentials.
If you are unlucky and get cancer between the age of 18 and 25, who pays?
Do you expect to be let off the hook for the big bucks? or do you expect to spend the rest of your life paying for it?

So the government should force people to spend THEIR money on health insurance? People should be free to do what they want with their money, even spend it foolishly. Most people get health insurance anyway, but it should be their choice.

Goldenboy219 · 07-12-09, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Polimaster

So the government should force people to spend THEIR money on health insurance? People should be free to do what they want with their money, even spend it foolishly. Most people get health insurance anyway, but it should be their choice.

While on the surface i would agree with you; yet there is much more depth than that.

If someone does not have "major medical coverage," and they happen to break their arm, or become extremely ill, that it requires major medical care to keep them alive (which is what doctors swear to), the long run result will be greater health care costs for everyone, and possibly negative impacts on others health (opportunity cost of charity).

phattonez · 07-12-09, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldenboy219

If someone does not have "major medical coverage," and they happen to break their arm, or become extremely ill, that it requires major medical care to keep them alive (which is what doctors swear to), the long run result will be greater health care costs for everyone, and possibly negative impacts on others health (opportunity cost of charity).

It all sounds well and good, but you're ignoring the negative consequences of insurance. You know what the flaw of insurance is, just go ahead and state it.

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