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Old 06-30-09, 01:29 PM   #21
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Really, weren't the 80's one of the most prosperous times in our history? Did not Reagan put an end to the cold war?

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No, the 80's were not prosperous, the economy was a shambles under Reagan. Unemployment in the middle of his term was higher than it is now.


As for "winning the cold war", there is something to the fact that the Soviet Union was tricked into believing America could field a Star Wars defense, and spent all their money trying to keep up. That they bought into Reagan's loony scheme may be the high point of his legacy. As for comparing Reagan to Obama? I'd say Obama is already on his way to far surpass the Gipper.
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Old 06-30-09, 01:37 PM   #22
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Both your first points are debatable. Obama has been in office 6 months. Asking what he has done when he has been in office only a little over 10 % of his term is disingenuous.




This whole "it's too early to critisize THE ONE" line of arguing is disingenuous.


And no the 1st two points are not debatable if you are not a revisionist.
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No, the 80's were not prosperous, the economy was a shambles under Reagan. Unemployment in the middle of his term was higher than it is now.








Uhm reagan took office in 82, look at your chart see how that squiggly line shoots down?

The rate now is 9.1% and its going up. Reagan's went from 10 under carter to below 6%... FAIL

Yeah, thats a GOOD thing and lends evidence to my claim, not yours.


I wonder what Obama's squiggly will look like!


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As for "winning the cold war", there is something to the fact that the Soviet Union was tricked into believing America could field a Star Wars defense, and spent all their money trying to keep up. That they bought into Reagan's loony scheme may be the high point of his legacy. As for comparing Reagan to Obama? I'd say Obama is already on his way to far surpass the Gipper.
So you are conceding that Reagan did indeed win the cold war? Thanks.
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1994 was a good year.
Anyone remember 1994?
I do remember that year. It was a good year. I also remember that everything that came out of that year was squandered by the Bushneviks.
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Right, no difference at all between John McCain, George Bush and Barrack Obama.
All owned by the bankers. Bush paid the banks, Mccaine acts liberal so as to be in a position to pay the banks and well ...Obama...we all saw that bank payout fiasco.

Yeah..they are the same.
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No, the 80's were not prosperous, the economy was a shambles under Reagan. Unemployment in the middle of his term was higher than it is now.
This is either a lie, or you not knowing what you're talking about.

Unemployment May 2009 9.4%
Unemployment 1984-1985 7.3% (av)
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Economic growth 1982-1989: 3.425% (annual av)
Economic growth 1993-2000: 3.725% (annual av)
U.S. Department of Commerce. Bureau of Economic Analysis
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As for comparing Reagan to Obama? I'd say Obama is already on his way to far surpass the Gipper.
Partisan bigotry at its best!
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Uhm reagan took office in 82, look at your chart see how that squiggly line shoots down?
Jesus, were you even alive then? Ronald Reagan took office on January 20, 1981. Most 7th graders would know that.
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CORRECTION:
Economic growth 1981-1988: 3.425% (annual av)
Economic growth 1993-2000: 3.725% (annual av)
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Jesus, were you even alive then? Ronald Reagan took office on January 20, 1981. Most 7th graders would know that.
Most 7th graders also know that 9.4 is more than 7.3 and that 3.425 is pretty close to 3.725.
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