Lerxst

This thread is the epitome of partisan politics and a good example of this forum. You almost never see someone place blame on the system, it's always on a particular President. The reality is that Congress spends like drunken sailors...Democrat and Republican alike. They have done so for decades. Complaining about a spending bill and trying to fix blame over the damaged economy to a specific president or party is just plain ignorant.

And 9/11 didn't cause us to spend hundreds of billions of dollars and run us into monumental debt. Irresponsible decision making and a lack of effective oversight did that. Both parties are guilty for this incredibly ****ty situation this nation is in.

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marduc

Was Obama sitting in on the committee meetings where the bulk of these earmarks were inserted into the bill?

No he was on the campaign trail alongside Mccain, the bill would have still came up for a vote and the results would have been the same regardless of who was president currently.

Did he participate in the House vote?? No

Has he signed the bill? No

should you withhold your knee jerk impulse to throw out the "change we can believe in" jab for any and all events that occur in Washington?? Yes.

Hell 40% of these earmarks are going to Republican districts, odd seems just about the same proportion of sitting republicans on the house floor.

Earmarks have been business as usual for both sides of the aisle for a long while, you really expected them to stop this pasttime just beacuse a couple of people were campaigning to put them to an end. this bill has been in the pipes more than the last month or so that Obama has been in office. Perhaps if Mccain had won it would be appropriate to blame this all on him, even though he clearly had nothing to do with it.

Ethereal

Plenty of people place blame on the system.

Alright, sounds like you're off to a good start. Please expand on these thoughts and clarify what you mean in regards to:

a. The system.
b. The system's role in permitting and facilitating this "****ty situation."
c. Possible solutions to this problem.

Reverend_Hellh0und

Good to see you calling out lefty here. I started this thread about The house and congress and thier drunken spending ways. Someone, (i believe MG) turned this into another obama vs bush thread......


http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057938502-post12.html


Me, I blame everyone.


Glad to see you call MG out though. Good job.

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Middleground

What did I write that was so partisan and untrue? Did Obama not inherit an economy in shambles?

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Reverend_Hellh0und

Don't worry my Canadian friend. I have no problem with what you posted, though I disagree with a lot of it.... I just thought that it was neat seeing Lerxst call you out for blaming presidents.


You don't see that too often.

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Middleground

Right. And the post that you quoted by me did not place blame on any President. The fact that Obama inherited an economy in shambles is nothing but fact. Anyone who has no more than 2 brain cells to rub together can decipher that.

It seems you do have a tendancy to blame other people for things that you do yourself, my American friend.

PS. I agree with Lerxst on a lot of things, including the above post.

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Reverend_Hellh0und

This thread is about the house here in the US.


You talked about Obama inheriting the economy...


Lerxst posted about people blaming economies on presidents.

Gee.... It ain't rocket surgery.

the fact that you want to get all obnoxious because lerxst called you out is not my problem. Don't bitch though when you get what you give, ok.

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Middleground

Rocket surgery?

Yes, you're right, Rev. It ain't rocket surgery.

And, of course, you never blame Presidents. It's always "systems" with you, ain't it?

Anyway, as usual, I've wasted to much time playing the semantics game with you and want to move onto bigger and better things. Like the surgery I now have to perform on my rocket.

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Reverend_Hellh0und

Don't let the door hit ya.

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