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Old 01-06-09, 09:01 AM   #91
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Re: Shhhh! As the world waits for Obama to voice his opinion on Gaza, America's presi

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i have said that all along, go ahead, search my friend.....


i think the palestinians cause most of thier troubles, i do also think the isrealis are heavy handed......
No argument here.

My whole point is that Israel is not completely blameless and Hamas ain't the good guys.
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Old 01-06-09, 11:07 AM   #92
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Talk about a dumbass statement!

And Israel has been violating the law for the last 42 years.
What law has Israel violated? Are you suggesting that the moron UN resolutions demanding that Israel retreat back to its former borders are some form of LEGAL documents? How about demanding Arabs stop their war on Israel and defending Israel when it was attacked on THREE separate occasions by Arab legions bent on destroying the State of Israel?

The same UN that created the State of Israel did NOTHING when it came time to defend the state from inhalation. The notion that they have some form of moral authority on the matter is laughable. Do you honestly think they have some form of LEGITIMATE authority to demand that Israel give up lands won in battle unilaterally without ANY assurance of security from the very Arab nations who attempted to destroy them?

In order to make such inane arguments, one has to be wallowing in abject denial and historic ignorance.

The State of Israel was carved out of a tiny strip of worthless desert by the collective guilt of the world in the aftermath of WWII. It is there, it exists and nothing anyone can do can change that FACT except through genocide of an entire race.

The FACTS are clear to all but those who wallow in willing denial; peace and prosperity can occur tomorrow if Hezbolah, Hammas and other terrorist organizations who can only thrive through violence and spreading ignorance, would agree to Israel's right to exist and peacefully negotiate new borders and put down their weapons.

The belligerents have always been the Arabs and terrorists since the UN created this tiny nation; all they have to do is agree that Israel has the right to exist in perpetuity and sit down and talk about how to promote a peaceful coexistence.

Don't hold your breath though; terrorists have NOTHING to gain through peace.

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Re: Shhhh! As the world waits for Obama to voice his opinion on Gaza, America's presi

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Do you all think Obama should have made a statment either way on this or not?
Actually, I think Obama should have said something, despite the fact that he would be stepping on Bush's toes if he did. Also, I think not much will change once Obama takes office anyways. Obama, as well as Bush before him, are merely symptoms of a larger problem - Lazy voters, who don't bother to understand the issues before they go out and put these Bozos in office.
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Obama breaks silence on Gaza, voices 'deep concern' over civilian deaths

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Barack Obama, who takes over as U.S. president from George W. Bush on January 20, broke his silence about the violence in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday, calling the loss of civilian lives in Gaza and in Israel a "source of deep concern for me."

Obama added he would adhere to his principle that only Bush should be the voice of U.S. foreign policy at this time but he would have plenty to say after his inauguration in two weeks.
Pressured into breaking his silence and mantra of 'one president at a time'
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