Obama fails to disclose transition meetings

Reverend_Hellh0und · 12-29-08, 05:24 PM

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Obama fails to disclose transition meetings

Obama fails to disclose transition meetings :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Lynn Sweet

WASHINGTON -- The Obama team, pledging the ''most open and transparent transition in history,'' gets an ''A'' for disclosing donors to the Jan. 20 inauguration and a ''F'' when it comes to revealing transition meetings with groups. Contrary to its own ''seat at the table transparency policy,'' meetings are not posted on a Web site.

During the presidential primary campaign, then candidate Obama, still an Illinois senator, made a pledge I heard for the first time on Oct. 24, 2007. In a school gym in Dover, N.H., Obama said if president, he would post his meetings on the Internet. That was interesting to me because Obama's Senate staff had been very selective about what Obama Senate-related meetings they disclosed and seemed to be guided by a ''less is best'' policy.

Interesting, was his talk of an open administration just another empty promise? I for one am unconcerned with this transition meeting stuff, other than to say, if you promise something, you should deliver.

Lightdemon · 12-29-08, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

Interesting, was his talk of an open administration just another empty promise? I for one am unconcerned with this transition meeting stuff, other than to say, if you promise something, you should deliver.

Well he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

Nearly a month ago, I remember reading a similar story where Obama disclosed some details of a transitioning meeting with Bush and many of the members on this debateboard got all up in arms and saying how disrespectful it was towards Bush. That Obama shouldn't have disclosed any details in that meeting.

Now, that Obama is refusing to disclose details, again we're up in arms. Now he's "not keeping his word."

Reverend_Hellh0und · 12-29-08, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lightdemon

Well he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

Nearly a month ago, I remember reading a similar story where Obama disclosed some details of a transitioning meeting with Bush and many of the members on this debateboard got all up in arms and saying how disrespectful it was towards Bush. That Obama shouldn't have disclosed any details in that meeting.

Now, that Obama is refusing to disclose details, again we're up in arms. Now he's "not keeping his word."

I think you are talking about two different things here. one is an executive courtesy, this is something he campaigned on.

Lightdemon · 12-29-08, 05:36 PM

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I think you are talking about two different things here. one is an executive courtesy, this is something he campaigned on.

Explain?

Reverend_Hellh0und · 12-29-08, 05:39 PM

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Explain?

a meeting between the president elect and the current president historically there was a courtesy where the president elect would not divulge the contents of these meetings unless ok'd by the white house...

meetings with different people for different transistion positions and what not are just that. who are they meeting with and what about. this latter here, he promised transparency.

Like I said, i don't think his transparencey here or not is a big deal, just that, he did promise, and it seems he is keeping it hush hush.... not a good way to start imo.

Kandahar · 12-29-08, 07:25 PM

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Interesting, was his talk of an open administration just another empty promise? I for one am unconcerned with this transition meeting stuff, other than to say, if you promise something, you should deliver.

Well if he said it in October 2007, he probably A) wasn't expecting to win, and B) probably unaware of what being president-elect entails.

I'd prefer that a president NOT disclose his daily private meetings (except under special circumstances). The quality of the advice the president receives will suffer, if people believe that their comments aren't confidential.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 12-29-08, 10:58 PM

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Well if he said it in October 2007, he probably A) wasn't expecting to win, and B) probably unaware of what being president-elect entails.

I'd prefer that a president NOT disclose his daily private meetings (except under special circumstances). The quality of the advice the president receives will suffer, if people believe that their comments aren't confidential.

So he lied then? is this your argument?

Kandahar · 12-29-08, 11:14 PM

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So he lied then? is this your argument?

Do you ever have anything intelligent to say? Ever? For once in your ****ing life?

Jesus Tapdancing Christ.

CaptainCourtesy · 12-30-08, 02:25 AM

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So he lied then? is this your argument?

No, that's not what he said at all.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 12-30-08, 06:14 AM

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No, that's not what he said at all.

So when he said something about him saying it because he didnt expect to win, he wasn't saying Obama was lying at the time?

hmm..... what did he mean there?