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Old 12-28-08, 10:30 AM   #51
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Re: RNC chairman condemns controversial Obama song

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No people like me were raised under a simple concept, and I live by it: Judge a man by the merit of his character, not the color of his skin.

I also don't wallow in the past. Slavery was 150 some odd years ago, we have a black president, it's time to move on. The sooner we stomp out "well it was unfair for years" crap the better.
Yes, that was a long time ago, but civil rights issues certainly weren't.

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I don't, but the culture it fosters is horrible. Period.
Then you really have no right to complain about it if it doesn't affect you. I find a lot of music distasteful, but I'm not arrogant enough to think that it shouldn't exist. I personally think country music fosters a horrible culture of ignorant, racist and homophobic rednecks in stupid clothes.
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Old 12-28-08, 10:31 AM   #52
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I know you think these problems are old, but they aren't. Civil rights issues concerning African Americans didn't happen that long ago.
These problems are old enough that they are nonexistant now or at least greatly diminished. A racist person is a social outcast in this time, as he should be.

I think all the crying and whining about something so far in the past that those who suffered it are dead and buried is asinine and counterproductive.

The civil rights issue died out with Rosa Parks and Jesse Helms.
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Old 12-28-08, 10:33 AM   #53
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nothing happened to blacks today, I am Irish, should I whine and bitch about my ancestors reading "irish need not apply" signs and demand reparations from england for the potato famine?


it is patently rediculous.
While we're at it, I should get some griping in about what happened to my Romanian ancestors at the hands of Hungarians and Turks. Lets make them pay, too.
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Nothing will negate what has happened in the past. Time certainly doesn't change a thing. The fact of the matter is that the history of African Americans in this country is quite different from white people. Nothing will ever change that. I think few people actually use it as currency to get special privileges. I think for the most part people just want it acknowledged so that people can quit pretending that racial equality exists. It will never exist.

No ones saying slavery didn't happen, and wasn't horrible. No one is saying that blacks were mistreated for decades. All true.

But that's in the past buddy, and that's the point. I live in the here and now, not wallowing in the evils of past generations whom have no hold on me.

Let me tell you a story, my grandmother grew up picking cotton on the family lands in Nada Texas. She'd spin long yarns about the pain and misery that cotton picking was, they were poor and that was how it was. When I was very little, and not knowing better, asked her "Didn't you have black people to do that?" she laughed and said "No dear, not often, we couldn't afford to hire them". That really changed my outlook on life. Couldn't afford to hire workers... think about that. Paid? To pick cotton, in the 1920's and 30's? THE HELLS? But all those TV shows I saw.. all that stuff I heard about slavery and unfairness... really opened my eyes. So I asked my grandfather about race relations and his answer was also life shaping to me "I din't listen to that stupidity a man's a man, color don't matter"

That's where I come from, that's my background.
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Yes, that was a long time ago, but civil rights issues certainly weren't.



Then you really have no right to complain about it if it doesn't affect you. I find a lot of music distasteful, but I'm not arrogant enough to think that it shouldn't exist. I personally think country music fosters a horrible culture of ignorant, racist and homophobic rednecks in stupid clothes.



What is distasteful about the song. What is the song about? And why does the article that was written by a raging lib not equally offend you?


(hint: I already linked to it)
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people can quit pretending that racial equality exists. It will never exist.
It will never exist as long as there is money and power in the victim culture.


And that's sad really. Very very very sad.
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Then you really have no right to complain about it if it doesn't affect you. I find a lot of music distasteful, but I'm not arrogant enough to think that it shouldn't exist. I personally think country music fosters a horrible culture of ignorant, racist and homophobic rednecks in stupid clothes.

If I were hiring, and had two people come in, both with equal credentials for the job, and one was dressed "gansta" and the other in a T-shirt and jeans, the "gangsta's" app would be in the circular filing cabinet.
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I've got a simple solution for you: Don't listen to it.
don't like rap? don't listen to it.
don't like abortion? don't have one.
don't like theft? don't steal.
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