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Old 12-14-08, 09:27 AM   #21
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Re: Palin's Church Severely Damaged by Arson

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Maybe he doesn't know what "fire-bombed" means.
Maybe he thought it was just another way of saying "set on fire".
Ya think? If we're talking semantics then to me there's a wide gap between arson and firebombed IMHO.

The real truth is that we have no idea who did it or for that matter how it was done. The photo that he provided does seem to prove that it was not a bomb, only a fire. Perhaps I misunderstood his intention when he tried to over dramatize the facts and perhaps when he wrote about "elitist savages" he was talking about the Bush Administration?
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Re: Palin's Church Severely Damaged by Arson

Amazing to me how facts get so twisted and turned.

Hopefully, the culprit(s) will be caught and brought to justice. Glad to hear no one was hurt.
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Perhaps I misunderstood his intention when he tried to over dramatize the facts and perhaps when he wrote about "elitist savages" he was talking about the Bush Administration?
Maybe he was talking about those skinheads that were arrested for plotting to kill Obama?
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Re: Palin's Church Severely Damaged by Arson

Regardless of how it was set though, it is a terrible thing and I agree that the culprits should also receive an attempted murder charge added to the list.
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Regardless of how it was set though, it is a terrible thing and I agree that the culprits should also receive an attempted murder charge added to the list.
I don't know about that.
I think arson, a felony defined as "maliciously, voluntarily, and willfully setting fire to the building, buildings, or other property", should suffice.
I don't think they'll be able to prove "attempted murder", as I doubt the arsonist/s will admit intentionally trying to murder anyone. They probably believed the building to be unoccupied, and even if they didn't, it would be hard to prove that they were deliberately trying to murder anyone.
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Amazing to me how facts get so twisted and turned.

Hopefully, the culprit(s) will be caught and brought to justice. Glad to hear no one was hurt.
Amazing to me, too. And it only ends up distracting from the true awfulness of the crime.

I have the same hopes concerning the culprits.

However, the Church could end up wanting the investigation kept quiet, though, in the end. It might have been some person who once attended there, and it could bring attention to whatever grievance that person feels they may have.
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Amazing to me, too. And it only ends up distracting from the true awfulness of the crime.

I have the same hopes concerning the culprits.

However, the Church could end up wanting the investigation kept quiet, though, in the end. It might have been some person who once attended there, and it could bring attention to whatever grievance that person feels they may have.
Historically speaking, that is the most likely scenario.
That's what it usually is.
Remember the shootings at Haggard's former church compound in Colorado?
Everyone was so quick to point fingers at the rabid atheists (as if atheists care enough about Christians to throw their lives away over them ).

The shooter turned out to be, of course, a disgruntled and mentally ill former member of that church.
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I don't know about that.
I think arson, a felony defined as "maliciously, voluntarily, and willfully setting fire to the building, buildings, or other property", should suffice.
I don't think they'll be able to prove "attempted murder", as I doubt the arsonist/s will admit intentionally trying to murder anyone. They probably believed the building to be unoccupied, and even if they didn't, it would be hard to prove that they were deliberately trying to murder anyone.
I think you are right. However, there are laws that could be used to charge the person/them for crimes in addition to the arson:
A person commits the crime of reckless endangerment if the person recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person.

Alaska Statutes: AS 11.41.250. Reckless Endangerment.

I think at least this would be appropriate.
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I think you are right. However, there are laws that could be used to charge the person/them for crimes in addition to the arson:
A person commits the crime of reckless endangerment if the person recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person.

Alaska Statutes: AS 11.41.250. Reckless Endangerment.

I think at least this would be appropriate.
I agree. That would probably be appropriate.
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