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Ohio Secretary of State Ordered to Verify Voter Registrations

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A federal judge on Thursday ordered Ohio's top elections official to verify the identity of newly registered voters by matching them with other government documents.

"For some reason, Jennifer Brunner does not want these new registrations checked," said Ohio Republican Party Deputy Chairman Kevin DeWine. "Her refusal to comply with federal law raises serious concerns about her ability to objectively oversee this election."

Ohio Secretary of State Ordered to Verify Voter Registrations - FOXNews.com Elections

I can see fraud by ACORN, they were funded and trained by Obama, so corruption there is a given. Here's and elected official though (Brunner) openly defying the verification process, set up to keep this from happening.

Great decision by the judge.
 
I wonder what Barack "ACORN" Obama had to do with this.
 
A federal judge on Thursday ordered Ohio's top elections official to verify the identity of newly registered voters by matching them with other government documents.

"For some reason, Jennifer Brunner does not want these new registrations checked," said Ohio Republican Party Deputy Chairman Kevin DeWine. "Her refusal to comply with federal law raises serious concerns about her ability to objectively oversee this election."



Ohio Secretary of State Ordered to Verify Voter Registrations - FOXNews.com Elections

I can see fraud by ACORN, they were funded and trained by Obama, so corruption there is a given. Here's and elected official though (Brunner) openly defying the verification process, set up to keep this from happening.

Great decision by the judge.

What a joke, a GOP Supporter crying/stating that a Dem cheated in Ohio. Hmmm, did Ohio use the voting machines that were used to elect GW in 2004? Didn't a high ranking official in Ohio promise GW a win in Ohio (wink, wink ;))?

Keep looking for something to bring down Obama. I am sure you'll find something that matters? NOT.

:rock

2004 United States election voting controversies
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Voting machines
Further information: Analysis of electronic voting
Before 2004, the increasing use of electronic voting machines had raised several issues:

Software. Without proper testing and certification, critics believe electronic voting machines could produce an incorrect report due to malfunction or deliberate manipulation.[20]
Recounts. Voting machine recounts include auditing of hardware, software and the comparison of multiple vote records.
Partisan ties. Democrats noted the Republican or conservative ties of several leading executives in the companies providing the machines.[21]
In September 2005, the Government Accountability Office released a report noting electronic voting systems hold promise for improving the election process while citing concerns about security and reliability raised by numerous groups, and detailing specific problems that have occurred.[22]

Some argue there is evidence the presidential election was stolen for Bush, citing sworn statements and affidavits of numerous voters supporting the fact that vote flipping did occur, examples of large-scale voter disenfranchisement and "statistical impossibilities," including the Ohio exit poll disparity
 
I wonder what Barack "ACORN" Obama had to do with this.

Probably had nothing to with it. It is another empty accusation made by a disperate right winger.

I am loving it. The right keeps digging and all they are doing is reinforcing stuff they did in past elections.

Hopefully, the 52 million idiots that voted for GW in 2004 now realize how crooked the RNC is.
 
The right keeps digging and all they are doing is reinforcing stuff they did in past elections.

You mean like, win. :doh
 
Probably had nothing to with it. It is another empty accusation made by a disperate right winger.

I am loving it. The right keeps digging and all they are doing is reinforcing stuff they did in past elections.

Hopefully, the 52 million idiots that voted for GW in 2004 now realize how crooked the RNC is.

Link

Alsammarae is a friend of Tony Rezko; the FBI is said to seek information on $2 billion in missing money meant to rebuild Iraq's infrastructure.
But back in Chicago, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) is more important than Iraq or Washington. ACORN and its associated Midwest Academy, both founded in the 1970s, continue to train and mobilize activists throughout the country, often using them to manipulate public opinion through "direct action." It's sometimes a code for illegal activities.
Prior to law school, Barack Obama worked as an organizer for their affiliates in New York and Chicago. He always has been an ACORN person -- meeting and working with them to advance their causes. Through his membership on the board of the Woods Fund for Chicago and his friendship with Teresa Heinz Kerry, Obama has helped ensure that they remain funded well.
Since he graduated from law school, Obama's work with ACORN and the Midwest Academy has ranged from training and fundraising, to legal representation and promoting their work.
ACORN: Obama Gets It
Yesterday, ACORN's political action committee endorsed Barack Obama for President. This is an important nod from a group that understands the urgent needs of Americans most hurt by this economy and how to organize for social and economic justice.
ACORN is the nation's largest community organization of low- and moderate-income families, with over 350,000 member families, organized into 800 neighborhood chapters, in 104 cities nationwide. The endorsement reflects a belief that Obama – who worked as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago – understands that change must come from the ground-up, as part of a working coalition, rather than from position papers.
As Maude Hurd, ACORN's National President, put it, "What it came down to was that Senator Obama is the candidate who best understands and can affect change on the issues ACORN cares about like stopping foreclosures, enacting fair and comprehensive immigration reform, and building stronger and safer communities across America."



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The movement's biggest victory, of course, came when Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac began buying up the riskier loans - providing fresh incentive for banks to make even more of them.
No need to recount where all that led.
Meanwhile, Obama was right there by ACORN's side all along.
"I've been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career," he told the group last November.
Indeed, in the early '90s, Obama was recruited by Talbott herself to run training sessions for ACORN activists.
ACORN also got funding from two charities, the Woods Fund and the Joyce Foundation, when Obama served on their boards, and from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge - the radical "education reform" outfit Obama ran from '95 to '99.

I got your acorns buddy, right here. :lol:
 
no, cheat, lie, steal votes, con, scare idiot's into voting for them, etc. etc. etc.

Your own link doesn't prove anything, and the paragraph you quoted is pointing at the actual voting machine.

To suggest that Bush manipulated those machines, is the type of mentality that allows the democratic party to successfully finish in second place, in the last two Presidential elections
 
A federal judge on Thursday ordered Ohio's top elections official to verify the identity of newly registered voters by matching them with other government documents.

"For some reason, Jennifer Brunner does not want these new registrations checked," said Ohio Republican Party Deputy Chairman Kevin DeWine. "Her refusal to comply with federal law raises serious concerns about her ability to objectively oversee this election."

Ohio Secretary of State Ordered to Verify Voter Registrations - FOXNews.com Elections

I can see fraud by ACORN, they were funded and trained by Obama, so corruption there is a given. Here's and elected official though (Brunner) openly defying the verification process, set up to keep this from happening.

Great decision by the judge.

It appears that the voter registrations actually are being verified, as required. The problem appears to be the ability of each county board of elections to access the information, as well as disagreement over whether or not a registration should be purged in the case of a mismatch. There are laws regarding purging voters within 90 days of an election, so this could be part of the story. It isn't clear to me that Brunner has defied the verification process, and Kevin DeWine's statement is clear :spin:. I expect there will be more coming on this story, as Brunner says that an appeal will be filed.

In fact, the Social Security administration is apparently overwhelmed with requests to verify voter registrations, and has complained to several states, including Ohio, that the requests seem excessive.

The Associated Press: Elections officials deny illegally purging voters

Last week, amid concerns about an uptick in the number of requests for verification, Social Security Commissioner Michael Astrue sent a letter to officials in Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Nevada, North Carolina and Ohio seeking to verify that the checks were run only on new voters who don't have acceptable identification. States have said the increase in checks is due partly to a stream of new voters coming in to register.

Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner's office released a copy of the letter in which Astrue notes that his agency had received more than 740,000 requests for verification from Ohio since Oct. 1, 2007.

"Such a volume appears to be much greater than one would expect, given that states of comparable or larger populations have a significantly lower number of verification requests," the letter said.

Brunner said Tuesday that roughly 666,000 new voters had registered in Ohio since the start of 2008.

Late Thursday, a federal judge ordered Brunner to not only verify the identity of newly registered voters in accordance with the Help America Vote Act, but to also establish a process by which Ohio's 88 county election boards can access the information.

Brunner has been doing the verification, but has not established that process. She said the Ohio attorney general's office is filing an immediate appeal of the judge's order.

The ruling came in a lawsuit filed by the Ohio Republican Party against Brunner, a Democrat.

There are bound to be many battles across the country similar to this one. Both sides do everything they can to win. Neither party has a monopoly on manipulation of elections. Democrats will always try to get as many people registered and to the polls as possible because it gives them an advantage, and Republicans will always try to suppress turnout because it gives them an advantage. New election, same old story.
 
It appears that the voter registrations actually are being verified, as required. The problem appears to be the ability of each county board of elections to access the information, as well as disagreement over whether or not a registration should be purged in the case of a mismatch.

Brunner was hindering the process of verification, precisely why the RNC intervened and sought out the injunction.

Now, they do have a chance to sort out the problem, there was only 7 days left before the registration/voter ballots became "anonymous" after which they couldn't be verified as legit or not.

I don't care who's doing it, I want the crap stopped. I would like to see all of these private organizations stopped from this registration of voters.

You want to vote, then register 30 days in advance with a valid ID.

Voting should take place on the day of election, with the exception of absentee ballots.
 
Tbone's silence is deafening.
 
"Ain't got no T-bone, got mashed potato" - Neil Young
 
Brunner was hindering the process of verification, precisely why the RNC intervened and sought out the injunction.

Now, they do have a chance to sort out the problem, there was only 7 days left before the registration/voter ballots became "anonymous" after which they couldn't be verified as legit or not.

I don't care who's doing it, I want the crap stopped. I would like to see all of these private organizations stopped from this registration of voters.

You want to vote, then register 30 days in advance with a valid ID.

Voting should take place on the day of election, with the exception of absentee ballots.

It looks to me like Brunner was following the Help America Vote Act by verifying the registrations. As far as making the info readily available to the county BOE, it is not clear to me that the law requires that, or that Brunner was not doing it. At least one article said that Brunner said that the counties could check registrations against the database, which seems to me to be making it available. Just because a judge makes a ruling that she has to do something doesn't mean that it was clearly written in law prior to the ruling. That's why we have judges, to interpret (sometimes poorly written) laws.

Where does it say that "there was only 7 days left before the registration/voter ballots became 'anonymous' after which they couldn't be verified as legit or not"? I don't see anything in the article you linked that says that.

I have no issue with private organizations registering voters. There is a system in place for verification, and it appears to be working. It's a balancing act to encourage participation without increasing fraud. If an organization has clearly engaged in egregious violations, there are laws to deal with that.

I think using ID to register is fine, as long as there is an alternative for those who don't have ID. There are ways to verify without ID. Again, we should be encouraging people to vote, not putting hurdles in their way.

I'm dismayed at some of the BOEs that have stated that they have stopped processing voter registrations because of some fraudulent forms. Yes, it's a pain to have to sort through, but by not processing all of the forms, they are disenfranchising some voters and shirking their responsibility. All of the forms should be processed.
 
Where does it say that "there was only 7 days left before the registration/voter ballots became 'anonymous' after which they couldn't be verified as legit or not"? I don't see anything in the article you linked that says that.

I was following it on the news last night.

There's 88 counties in Ohio, each with their own BOE, with Rep/Dem being equally represented in each BOE. The complaints were coming from the counties alleging that Brunner was interferring with their right to check the validity of the ballots. Brunner said it was within her authority, the RNC disagreed, and sought out the judge because of the time constraints involved.
 
Tbone's silence is deafening.

Please don't take my silence as deafening. I had to work. Not allowed to play with the internet.

The GOP cheated, it chronies cheated with the hanging chad, and the machines in Ohio where fixed to cheat for Bush.
 
Your own link doesn't prove anything, and the paragraph you quoted is pointing at the actual voting machine.

To suggest that Bush manipulated those machines, is the type of mentality that allows the democratic party to successfully finish in second place, in the last two Presidential elections

You're right Bush isn't smart enough to have the machines manipultated, Rove did it for him.

At this point, you could tell me Obama kick old ladies in Sun City, AZ, and I'd still vote for him . . . . . . And, so will a majority of the USA. Get use to it,
President Obama.

Keep digging, the RNC is good at scary idiots into voting for their candidate, e.g. WMD, etc.
 
You're right Bush isn't smart enough to have the machines manipultated, Rove did it for him.

At this point, you could tell me Obama kick old ladies in Sun City, AZ, and I'd still vote for him . . . . . . And, so will a majority of the USA. Get use to it,
President Obama.

Keep digging, the RNC is good at scary idiots into voting for their candidate, e.g. WMD, etc.

Still blabbering on with no source to substantiate your flimsy claims.

"Ain't got no Tbone, got mashed potato" - Neil Young
 
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You came back with the same link that proves nothing. :doh

Here is some more stuff to point that voter fraud occurred in Ohio. Kerry didn't have the testicles to fight this issue and conceded the vote.

We can go all day on this if you'd like. It is fun showing the corruption of the Bush regime. And, it gives me more insight into those who continue to support the second most ineffective prez (Carter is first)

For now here is this. We can talk about the hanging chad and other debacles later. :doh

BTW, if you get to use Druge, I get to use Rolling Stone.

Rollingstone.com - Back to Was the 2004 Election Stolen? - Was the 2004 Election Stolen? - Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted -- enough to have put John Kerry in the White House. - by ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR. --Posted Jun 01, 2006 5:02 PM


No state was more important in the 2004 election than Ohio. The state has been key to every Republican presidential victory since Abraham Lincoln's, and both parties overwhelmed the state with television ads, field organizers and volunteers in an effort to register new voters and energize old ones. Bush and Kerry traveled to Ohio a total of forty-nine times during the campaign -- more than to any other state.(42)

But in the battle for Ohio, Republicans had a distinct advantage: The man in charge of the counting was Kenneth Blackwell, the co-chair of President Bush's re-election committee.(43) As Ohio's secretary of state, Blackwell had broad powers to interpret and implement state and federal election laws -- setting standards for everything from the processing of voter registration to the conduct of official recounts.(44) And as Bush's re-election chair in Ohio, he had a powerful motivation to rig the rules for his candidate. Blackwell, in fact, served as the ''principal electoral system adviser'' for Bush during the 2000 recount in Florida,(45) where he witnessed firsthand the success of his counterpart Katherine Harris, the Florida secretary of state who co-chaired Bush's campaign there.(46)

Blackwell -- now the Republican candidate for governor of Ohio(47) -- is well-known in the state as a fierce partisan eager to rise in the GOP. An outspoken leader of Ohio's right-wing fundamentalists, he opposes abortion even in cases of rape(48) and was the chief cheerleader for the anti-gay-marriage amendment that Republicans employed to spark turnout in rural counties(49). He has openly denounced Kerry as ''an unapologetic liberal Democrat,''(50) and during the 2004 election he used his official powers to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of Ohio citizens in Democratic strongholds. In a ruling issued two weeks before the election, a federal judge rebuked Blackwell for seeking to ''accomplish the same result in Ohio in 2004 that occurred in Florida in 2000.''(51)

''The secretary of state is supposed to administer elections -- not throw them,'' says Rep. Dennis Kucinich, a Democrat from Cleveland who has dealt with Blackwell for years. ''The election in Ohio in 2004 stands out as an example of how, under color of law, a state election official can frustrate the exercise of the right to vote.''

The most extensive investigation of what happened in Ohio was conducted by Rep. John Conyers, the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee.(52) Frustrated by his party's failure to follow up on the widespread evidence of voter intimidation and fraud, Conyers and the committee's minority staff held public hearings in Ohio, where they looked into more than 50,000 complaints from voters.(53) In January 2005, Conyers issued a detailed report that outlined ''massive and unprecedented voter irregularities and anomalies in Ohio.'' The problems, the report concludes, were ''caused by intentional misconduct and illegal behavior, much of it involving Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell.''(54)

''Blackwell made Katherine Harris look like a cupcake,'' Conyers told me. ''He saw his role as limiting the participation of Democratic voters. We had hearings in Columbus for two days. We could have stayed two weeks, the level of fury was so high. Thousands of people wanted to testify. Nothing like this had ever happened to them before.''

When ROLLING STONE confronted Blackwell about his overtly partisan attempts to subvert the election, he dismissed any such claim as ''silly on its face.'' Ohio, he insisted in a telephone interview, set a ''gold standard'' for electoral fairness. In fact, his campaign to subvert the will of the voters had begun long before Election Day. Instead of welcoming the avalanche of citizen involvement sparked by the campaign, Blackwell permitted election officials in Cleveland, Cincinnati and Toledo to conduct a massive purge of their voter rolls, summarily expunging the names of more than 300,000 voters who had failed to cast ballots in the previous two national elections.(55) In Cleveland, which went five-to-one for Kerry, nearly one in four voters were wiped from the rolls between 2000 and 2004.(56)

There were legitimate reasons to clean up voting lists: Many of the names undoubtedly belonged to people who had moved or died. But thousands more were duly registered voters who were deprived of their constitutional right to vote -- often without any notification -- simply because they had decided not to go to the polls in prior elections.(57) In Cleveland's precinct 6C, where more than half the voters on the rolls were deleted,(58) turnout was only 7.1 percent(59) -- the lowest in the state.

According to the Conyers report, improper purging ''likely disenfranchised tens of thousands of voters statewide.''(60) If only one in ten of the 300,000 purged voters showed up on Election Day -- a conservative estimate, according to election scholars -- that is 30,000 citizens who were unfairly denied the opportunity to cast ballots.
 
Here is some more stuff to point that voter fraud occurred in Ohio.

No, voter fraud is occuring in Ohio as we speak, thus the reason I started the thread.

Kerry didn't have the testicles to fight this issue and conceded the vote.

Hey, your intimacy with Kerry and his "package" is TMI. :shock:

We can go all day on this if you'd like. It is fun showing the corruption of the Bush regime. And, it gives me more insight into those who continue to support the second most ineffective prez (Carter is first)

No, because the topic of this thread is:

Ohio Secretary of State Ordered to Verify Voter Registrations.

The '04 election is over, and voter fraud was never pursued and/or proved in any court of law, so all you have is speculation and opinion.

For now here is this. We can talk about the hanging chad and other debacles later.

Again, you're clinging to a turd from the past.

BTW, if you get to use Druge, I get to use Rolling Stone.

Druge? What the hell is Druge, and where did I use it? My source is FOX News as seen here in my OP:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news/37644-ohio-secretary-state-ordered-verify-voter-registrations.html#post1057763393
 
No, voter fraud is occuring in Ohio as we speak, thus the reason I started the thread.


And folks, he knew what we were speaking of, and choose to divert. My comment to you when you started the thread was this:
"What a joke, a GOP Supporter crying/stating that a Dem cheated in Ohio. Hmmm, did Ohio use the voting machines that were used to elect GW in 2004? Didn't a high ranking official in Ohio promise GW a win in Ohio (wink, wink )?

Keep looking for something to bring down Obama. I am sure you'll find something that matters? NOT."
 
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