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Hackers Access Palin's Personal E-Mail, Post Some Online

TBone said:
do you have a link or source?
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It's from /b/, so you can't exactly link to it or have any idea whatsoever who published it. It seems plausible, and fits pretty perfectly with the pics and things that have been leaked so far.
 
So in order to evade investigation from the state legislature Palin was recommended by her legal consultant to use yahoo or some other email service that was not through the government's server so that they would not be "subpoenaed".
Andrée McLeod, who filed the FOIA request, said yesterday evening that Palin should have known better than to conduct state business using an unsecured e-mail account. "If this woman is so careless as to conduct state business on a private e-mail account that has been hacked into, what in the world is she going to do when she has access to information that is vital to our national security interests?" she asked.
McLeod's Anchorage attorney, Donald C. Mitchell, said Palin declined to comply with a public records request in June to divulge 1,100 e-mails sent to and from her personal accounts, citing executive privilege.
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Now because of the idiotic decision by her to attempt to hide from the law her account is hacked and instead of the emails being reviewed by investigators for whatever investigation there may be, they're completely exposed all over the internet for everyone to see - I can't help but feel a sense of poetic justice with that.

So is this how she would conduct business out of the VP office from the white house? Seemingly not only is she completely un-knowledgeable, she's utterly idiotic - probably one of those people that see an email with the sexual enhancement drugs or free million dollars where all you need to do is click here and get her entire computer system invaded by viruses and worms then wonder several days later why she can't use her computer.

Well, on that McCain is far better than her, he would at least leave the system alone to someone that does know how to use a comp. Unfortunately it seems that in this case he trusts the dumbass neocon wannabe that thinks she knows everything with the system.

Yeah you all know the type I'm talking about, the kind that diddles around with the system with a desktop completely covered in pointless shortcut icons that come pre-installed with the system has no idea about spyware/adware or the lot.
 
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A tech-savvy reader who monitors the hackers’ site e-mailed me a detailed explanation of how it went down, who was responsible, and how someone with a conscience warned a friend of the Palin family of the crime (language warning):
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I'm going to need more than this for it to even pass the smell test.



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jfuh said:
So in order to evade investigation from the state legislature Palin was recommended by her legal consultant to use yahoo or some other email service that was not through the government's server so that they would not be "subpoenaed".
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Pretty rotten, huh?

Maybe she just wanted to look Vice Presidential :mrgreen:
 
missypea said:
Pretty rotten, huh?

Maybe she just wanted to look Vice Presidential :mrgreen:
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Now people from the right, do you still want her? Crooked and all?
 
jfuh said:
So in order to evade investigation from the state legislature Palin was recommended by her legal consultant to use yahoo or some other email service that was not through the government's server so that they would not be "subpoenaed".
Now because of the idiotic decision by her to attempt to hide from the law her account is hacked and instead of the emails being reviewed by investigators for whatever investigation there may be, they're completely exposed all over the internet for everyone to see - I can't help but feel a sense of poetic justice with that.

So is this how she would conduct business out of the VP office from the white house? Seemingly not only is she completely un-knowledgeable, she's utterly idiotic - probably one of those people that see an email with the sexual enhancement drugs or free million dollars where all you need to do is click here and get her entire computer system invaded by viruses and worms then wonder several days later why she can't use her computer.

Well, on that McCain is far better than her, he would at least leave the system alone to someone that does know how to use a comp, but it seems that in this case he trusts the dumbass neocon wannabe that thinks she knows everything.
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You guys realize that every single allegation you've quoted in this thread has come from the same disgruntled employee who Palin fired a while back, right?
 
RightinNYC said:
You guys realize that every single allegation you've quoted in this thread has come from the same disgruntled employee who Palin fired a while back, right?
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So, her email was not hacked?
 
RightinNYC said:
You guys realize that every single allegation you've quoted in this thread has come from the same disgruntled employee who Palin fired a while back, right?
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So her emails have not been hacked?
 
missypea said:
Pretty rotten, huh?

Maybe she just wanted to look Vice Presidential :mrgreen:
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Perhaps so when she meets with people in the UN huh?
I remember something some folks were bitching about a whiles back about looking too much the roll (presidential) too early.
There was this black guy going around Europe and the ME and I recall some elephants blabbering on about looking the roll and seeming too much a celebrity - have any idea what I'm talking about?
 
RightinNYC said:
You guys realize that every single allegation you've quoted in this thread has come from the same disgruntled employee who Palin fired a while back, right?
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Palin had claimed executive privilege for documents copied to her husband, who is not a state employee, in responding to an open records request in June made by Andrée McLeod, an activist in Anchorage.
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Come on RNYC. Think about this as the guy down the street....whom you have no allegiance with.



First he/she says "hold me accountable"

Then withholds emails

Then claims executive privilege

Come to find out h/she planned on using Yahoo to escape scrutiny


You think this kind of behavior is well and good for America??


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TBone said:
So, her email was not hacked?
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jfuh said:
So her emails have not been hacked?
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wtf? I'm referring to this crap:

"If this woman is so careless as to conduct state business on a private e-mail account that has been hacked into, what in the world is she going to do when she has access to information that is vital to our national security interests?" she asked.
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"There's a reason the governor should be using her own official e-mail channels, because of security and encryption," the attorney said. "She's running state business out of Yahoo?"
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Yes, her email was hacked into. No, nothing was discovered that wasn't already known.
 
missypea said:
washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

Come on RNYC. Think about this as the guy down the street....whom you have no allegiance with.

First he/she says "hold me accountable"

Then withholds emails

Then claims executive privilege

Come to find out h/she planned on using Yahoo to escape scrutiny

You think this kind of behavior is well and good for America??

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Again, what makes you think that any of her emails are discoverable? That attorney claims they are. Case law apparently says different. I've seen nothing that would indicate she's under any obligation to turn over any of those emails.
 
missypea said:
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Come on RNYC. Think about this as the guy down the street....whom you have no allegiance with.



First he/she says "hold me accountable"

Then withholds emails

Then claims executive privilege

Come to find out h/she planned on using Yahoo to escape scrutiny


You think this kind of behavior is well and good for America??


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Uh guys I hate to derail a burgeoning conspiracy theory but........

The emails are all still online and don't appear to be very juicy. And there appears to be very little actual "business" related emails to conspire much about. They don't seem to have any smoking gun or material that would need to "escape scrutiny" from any investigators.:roll:
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I see the Secret Service is now on the case, that hacker may be in for some serious trouble.

Memo to US Secret Service: Net proxy may pinpoint Palin email hackers ? The Register

Memo to law enforcement investigators tracking down who broke into Sarah Palin's Yahoo email account: Gabriel Ramuglia might be a good place to start.
The 25-year-old webmaster and entrepreneur is the operator of Ctunnel.com, the browsing proxy service used by the group that hacked into the vice presidential candidate's personal email account and exposed its contents to the world. While he has yet to examine his logs, he says there's a good chance they will lead to those responsible, thanks to some carelessness on their part.
"Usually, this sort of thing would be hard to track down because it's Yahoo email, and a lot of people use my service for that," he told El Reg in a phone interview. "Since they were dumb enough to post a full screenshot that showed most of the [Ctunnel.com] URL, I should be able to find that in my log."
 
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RightinNYC said:
wtf? I'm referring to this crap:

Yes, her email was hacked into. No, nothing was discovered that wasn't already known.
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11,000 of the governors emails were displayed online I don't think anyone's gone through all of it.
But disgruntled or not, that doesn't change much at all that it was stupid of her to do so.
 
Well it will really make the executive branch transparent if she is the next VP and starts using GoogleDocs to store all her sensitive data instead of Cheney's man sized safe.
 
It's an epic fail for Democrats:

1) Nothing incriminating or reputationally damaging was found in the emails. No secret lovers, no political scandals, no naughty pics. Nothing. To add insult to injury, she delineates succintly what her role as VP is in one of the emails, showing no ignorance whatsoever. There goes that allegation.

2) It just provides more fuel to the fire that Sarah Palin is being unfairly attacked, which will bring even more undecided voters to her defense. I bet a lot of people are thinking about all the scandalous material in their own e-mail accounts right now, and feeling outraged at how Sarah is being treated.

Fail.

Again.

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MC.no.spin said:
It's an epic fail for Democrats:

1) Nothing incriminating or reputationally damaging was found in the emails. No secret lovers, no political scandals, no naughty pics. Nothing. To add insult to injury, she delineates succintly what her role as VP is in one of the emails, showing no ignorance whatsoever. There goes that allegation.

2) It just provides more fuel to the fire that Sarah Palin is being unfairly attacked, which will bring even more undecided voters to her defense. I bet a lot of people are thinking about all the scandalous material in their own e-mail accounts right now, and feeling outraged at how Sarah is being treated.

Fail.

Again.
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Why for Democrats? I didn't realize that it was democratic party that went about with the hack, perhaps you have supporting evidence to back up your claim?
Seems like you're failing to make the connection.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
One thing's for sure, we know McCain didn't hack it. :rofl
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LOL I saw an article last night that indicated the McCain camp wanted an investigation. Oh....so an investigation into who hacked into Palin's account is okay, but an investigation to see if she abused her powers as governor is not okay. I get it. :roll:
 
lincoln said:
Liberals do not need the Patriot Act or a FISA bill they are just fine with law breaking hackers.
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Do you have anything substantive to add? Sheesh!
 
aps said:
LOL I saw an article last night that indicated the McCain camp wanted an investigation. Oh....so an investigation into who hacked into Palin's account is okay, but an investigation to see if she abused her powers as governor is not okay. I get it. :roll:
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Both should've been investigated. No matter how it's looked upon, what the hacker did was an illegal crime. No one no matter the circumstances can defy the law and go on an illegal warentless search of someone else's personal belongings.
As for Palin's refusal to cooperate by making use of a personal email account as opposed to a state email account, that was just stupid and brings to question of what were actually perfectly innocent exchanges - as far as we know. I mean aren't republican's typically mouthing off about how they have nothing to hide so what's the big deal if government looks through their personal electronic mail? Ironic
 
jfuh said:
Both should've been investigated. No matter how it's looked upon, what the hacker did was an illegal crime. No one no matter the circumstances can defy the law and go on an illegal warentless search of someone else's personal belongings.
As for Palin's refusal to cooperate by making use of a personal email account as opposed to a state email account, that was just stupid and brings to question of what were actually perfectly innocent exchanges - as far as we know. I mean aren't republican's typically mouthing off about how they have nothing to hide so what's the big deal if government looks through their personal electronic mail? Ironic
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I agree that BOTH instances deserve to be investigated. I dont' understand the mentality of some stupid idiot in hacking into her account. I also don't understand why she or any public official would use a Yahoo account to conduct business. That is just so stupid. If Obama did that, he's an idiot as well.
 
MC.no.spin said:
It's an epic fail for Democrats:

1) Nothing incriminating or reputationally damaging was found in the emails. No secret lovers, no political scandals, no naughty pics. Nothing. To add insult to injury, she delineates succintly what her role as VP is in one of the emails, showing no ignorance whatsoever. There goes that allegation.

2) It just provides more fuel to the fire that Sarah Palin is being unfairly attacked, which will bring even more undecided voters to her defense. I bet a lot of people are thinking about all the scandalous material in their own e-mail accounts right now, and feeling outraged at how Sarah is being treated.

Reminds me of Rove and the White House Iraq War Planners using the RNC, Republican National Committee E-mail accounts to discuss Government business.

The Raw Story | RNC lawyer admits at least four years of Rove emails missing

The Use of RNC E-mail Accounts by White House Officials :: Committee on Oversight and Government Reform :: United States House of Representatives


Palin's advisers are out of the Karl Rove School.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspiracy-theories/36291-steves-puts-secrecy-into-mccain-palin.html

I think Palin is no different from the Bush crew. I heard a hearing on the radio, CSPAN, with the FBI Director stonewalling the Senate Judiciary committee.

Senate Judiciary Cmte. on FBI Oversight with Dir. Mueller - AOL Video

The idea of the US Balance of Powers in the branches of government is that the Congress makes laws, and checks that the laws are being folloed by the Exectutive Branch. Any disputes are settled by the Courts, in the Judiciary branch. If the Congress does not know what loophosle hte Executive branch has rationalized to commit abuses, then Congress cannot tighten up the language of the laws to prevent abuses by the FBI, etc.

If the Executive branch keeps excessive secrets, then the Congress, the legislative branch cannot seek redress in the courts.

One question is whether Palin's claims of executive privilege for refusing to release hundreds of e-mails, was a conscientious application of executive privilege.

I see Palin as habitually trying to cover up issues beyond the scope of legitimate executive privilege.

Think Progress Just Like Bush White House, Palin Uses Personal E-mail Accounts And Claims Executive Privilege

Another 4 years of Bush/Cheney type secrecy? Is that what the independent American swing voters want? How are the voting machines going to be rigged?

Expressing outrage by Rick Davis, Palin's Campaing Manager, I am sure works fine for the Right Wing Base. What about Pro-Choice Republicans, independants and conservative Democrats?

It just seems like Palin is wriggling, trying to find an excuse to keep more secrets. and calling attention away from her misdeeds.


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