Greenspan: No McCain tax cuts without reduction - Page 6

hrdman2luv · 09-14-08, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TBone

Are you sure you're a conservative, I love these comments. Honest question, I apologize if it is too personal, do you like GW?

NOOO. I don't like what George Bush has done to this country. He has created the largest trade deficit in our history.
He has expended the size of our government to an all time high.
He has authorized more executive orders (which is against the constitition).
He has allowed an invasion of another country that was of no National Security threat.
He has lied repeatedly about Iran's capabilities. Even after 9 suprise inspections that Iran passed.
He hasn't even attempted to downsize the unconstitutional agentcys or Dept.s (Dept. of Education, Transportation, Homeland Security, Energy, or Agriculture)
He keeps threatening other countries when the USA isn't in any kind of financial situation to afford it. (If we can all remember what ended the USSR)
He never touched the abortion issue.
He hasn't secured our borders.
He tried to allow Mexican Trucks to haul freight in our country.

I am a Conservative. And let me tell you, George Bush isn't conservative. He is about as liberal as Obama.

The Conservatives, the real ones, want to reduce all taxes. They have always been elected to end wars. Not start them.
George Bush has highjacked the conservative wing of the Republican party.
If you remember, before Bush sr. came along. The wars were started by Democrats. Why do you think the Democrats keep funding Bush's war in Iraq. And won't stop funding Afganhistan. And won't stop him from pushing Russia.......Because he is liberal.
Being "Pro-War" is a liberal thing. Not a conservative thing.
Conservatives are supposed to save money. Not spend it like a Democrat.
Is it any wonder why the GOP is going down this year? Because they are turning Liberal. And the true conservatives realize the situation we are in. That McCain is as liberal as Bush and Obama.
Is it any wonder that a vialble third party is getting closer and closer to being elected? All across this country, more and more Libertarians & Constitutionist party population is growing by leaps and bounds. Because all the true Conservatives are looking for a new home. A place where true conservatives can go since the NEOCONS have desrtoyed our party. The ones remaining either still belive in the WMD fairy, or they just don't realize what true conservatism is. And to be quite frank. Ronald Reagan wasn't as Conservative as people claim. But at least he "played the part" better than the Bush's.

Gibberish · 09-15-08, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezaad

In this election we probably have the usual conservative against a sheep in wolf's clothing. I believe that McCain will try to truly balance the budget, and he will do it by attempting to force Congress to make the tough choices about what to cut, or at least share the responsibility. Obama will raise taxes, probably on the rich, more than he has said he will.

Do you believe McCain will have a the budget balanced by the end of his first term as he is promising?

So far McCain hasn't shown any sign of doing anything different then Bush has been doing the last 8 years. So I say good luck to him with balancing the budget while investing in fiscally liberal policies.

Plus I would love to see who is economic advisors are because there seem to be many fiscal experts that don't see how McCain can ever balance the budget given his policies...

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Tashah · 09-15-08, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by hrdman2luv

And directly under the guidlines of Homeland Security. Along with all State, Country and local police and Government.

The Department of Homeland Security has nothing whatsoever to do with the National Security Agency (NSA). These military and government agencies are under the direct and exclusive control of the DoD/Pentagon...

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Department of the Army
Department of the Navy
Department of the Air Force
Missile Defense Agency
Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)
Pentagon Force Protection Agency (PFPA)
Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA)
National Security Agency (NSA)
National War College

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Tashah · 09-15-08, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

To his credit for being honest, Obama admits his programs won't balance the budget.

So neither candidate then has put forth viable fiscal initiatives to balance the budget and reduce the huge deficit. Seems like a choose your poison type of deal

Tashah · 09-15-08, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by hrdman2luv

He has lied repeatedly about Iran's capabilities. Even after 9 suprise inspections that Iran passed.

This is not true at all. Iran has never been given a clean NPT bill of health by the IAEA because Iran will not allow comprehensive inspections of all nuclear documents and facilities. Non-transparancy is precisely why Iran has been placed under sanctions by the UN Security Council.

hrdman2luv · 09-15-08, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tashah

So neither candidate then has put forth viable fiscal initiatives to balance the budget and reduce the huge deficit. Seems like a choose your poison type of deal

Alan Greenspan clarified things and not many republicans are even taken into account of his statements. It's funny, how greenspan, to most republicans, was right up until Bush came along. Until the failures of the Bush administration and now the McCain candidacy, Greenspans word was spot on.
This should go to show all McCain's supporters, that McCain will be a disaster on our economic policies.
As I stated in a previous post, McCain hasn't the knowledge to be economically sound.
He has stated on many occasions that he hasn't the experience to protect this country from a depression.

YouTube - McCain doesn't know anything about the economy or Iraq

American · 09-15-08, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kandahar

Eliminating earmarks comes absolutely nowhere close to balancing the budget, and to suggest it does is dishonest.

Please show me where earmarks are submitting as the only solutions for balancing the budget.

American · 09-15-08, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hrdman2luv

Alan Greenspan clarified things and not many republicans are even taken into account of his statements. It's funny, how greenspan, to most republicans, was right up until Bush came along. Until the failures of the Bush administration and now the McCain candidacy, Greenspans word was spot on.
This should go to show all McCain's supporters, that McCain will be a disaster on our economic policies.
As I stated in a previous post, McCain hasn't the knowledge to be economically sound.
He has stated on many occasions that he hasn't the experience to protect this country from a depression.

YouTube - McCain doesn't know anything about the economy or Iraq

What gets me is that Greenspan wasn't near this vocal on anything until he retired. WTF?

Gibberish · 09-15-08, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by American

Please show me where earmarks are submitting as the only solutions for balancing the budget.

It's not. McCain is also counting on the "savings" from the Iraq and Afghan War (which are both funded by deficit money, so I don't know how that is "savings"), less revenue from taxes, Social Security reform, and $100 billion in earmarks.

The funny thing about the earmarks is that there is really only $10 billion that can be saved per year. Unless of course McCain wants to cut funding to Israel, Egypt, and a number of other allies.

hrdman2luv · 09-19-08, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibberish

It's not. McCain is also counting on the "savings" from the Iraq and Afghan War (which are both funded by deficit money, so I don't know how that is "savings"), less revenue from taxes, Social Security reform, and $100 billion in earmarks.

The funny thing about the earmarks is that there is really only $10 billion that can be saved per year. Unless of course McCain wants to cut funding to Israel, Egypt, and a number of other allies.

Earmarks, at least most of em, are not a bad thing. People in each district pays and pays, but doesn't get anything back except what they can from their taxes.
Now if you or I had a good representitive, he would flood every bill he could in earmarks, that would find their way back to your district if the bill gets signed into law.
If the earmarks aren't placed into the bill, then your district gets nothing. My Representitive, Jeb Hensarling, has a "war on earmarks". And we get nothing back to help improve our county roads, Hospitals, expanding or generating more business's etc etc......

Did anyone catch McCains speech yesterday when he said he would fire the SEC Chairman if he was the president? That dummy doesn't even know that the President can't fire the SEC chairman.