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Old 09-13-08, 11:42 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thats his plan? No wonder he admitted that he wasn't experienced in economics.

Why in the world is any real conservative supporting this guy? I hate to say this, but Bush was right in 1999, when he made it known that John McCain wasn't mentally fit to be the president....

Hey John, How about the trillion $$$ we waste on our foreign policy? How about the $7 billion we waste on houseing, feeding and caring for the 200,000+ illegals in our prison system? How about the welfare that we give to the illegals.

How about ending the Dept. of Education, Dept. of Homeland Seurity, Dept of Transportation, Energy, and the many other dept's that we pay for but don't get anything from. You know, that used to be the Conservative way. And it used to work.

John McCain wants to scrutinize Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid? Why don't he just send all the old and disabled people to Iraq.....Oh wait..McCain has a 100% disability from the military........
Re: Dept of Homeland Security, they are getting rave reviews from mayors, governors and other officials for their efficient and speedy assistance in dealing with the hurricanes Gustav and Ike.

But I'm with you that govt needs to be smaller.
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WASHINGTON – Alan Greenspan says the country can't afford tax cuts of the magnitude proposed by Republican presidential contender John McCain — at least not without a corresponding reduction in government spending.

"Unless we cut spending, no," the former Federal Reserve chairman said Friday when asked about McCain's proposed tax cuts, pegged in some estimates at $3.3 trillion.

"I'm not in favor of financing tax cuts with borrowed money," Greenspan said during an interview with Bloomberg Television. "I always have tied tax cuts to spending."

McCain has said that he would offset his proposed cuts — including reducing the corporate tax rate and eliminating the Alternative Minimum Tax that has plagued middle-class families — by ending congressional pork-barrel spending, unnecessary government programs and overhauling entitlement programs such as Medicare and Social Security.

Democrats pounced on Greenspan's comments, in part because McCain professed last year that he was weaker on economics than foreign affairs and was reading Greenspan's memoir, "The Age of Turbulence," to educate himself.

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I'd just like to say that Ron Paul "told you so"
I gotta say at least God bless Greenspan. In this age of all that seems to matter is who can cut taxes the fastest, he is one of the few prominent persons that at least brings up the issue of the deficits and the long term costs the exploding debt has.
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I gotta say at least God bless Greenspan. In this age of all that seems to matter is who can cut taxes the fastest, he is one of the few prominent persons that at least brings up the issue of the deficits and the long term costs the exploding debt has.
Yes, he is a great supply-sider. Too little regulation of Fannie, Feddie and the sub-prime fiasco, however.
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Yes, he is a great supply-sider. Too little regulation of Fannie, Feddie and the sub-prime fiasco, however.
What did Greenspan have to do with that?
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What did Greenspan have to do with that?
Quite a bit. He was in favor of de-regulation and did not supervise banks closely in their investing (one of the Fed's main duties.) This allowed for them to provide high risk mortgages, slice them up into packaged commodities, sell them on the market and spread risk. This snowballed to banks loaning money to people who had absolutely no business buying a home. "Stated income loans" became the fashion, with no money down. This of course exploded and we as tax payers are picking up the bill.

In his book he says he kept things loose becaue he saw the importance of property rights in the fabric and future of America and wanted as many people to own a home as possible. Not a very good excuse if you asked me.

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Quite a bit. He was in favor of de-regulation and did not supervise banks closely in their investing (one of the Fed's main duties.) This allowed for them to provide high risk mortgages, slice them up into packaged commodities, sell them on the market and spread risk. This snowballed to banks loaning money to people who had absolutely no business buying a home. "Stated income loans" became the fashion, with no money down. This of course exploded and we as tax payers are picking up the bill.

In his book he says he kept things loose becaue he saw the importance of property rights in the fabric and future of America and wanted as many people to own a home as possible. Not a very good excuse if you asked me.
Well it is nice that you have an opinion. And it is kinda funny you have one contradictory to the conservative agenda.
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Yes, he is a great supply-sider. Too little regulation of Fannie, Feddie and the sub-prime fiasco, however.
He is, but at least he recognized the need to do it within a balanced budget.

He'd say he was in favor of the Bush tax cuts, for which I faulted him (because I didn't think taxes should be cut till the debt was paid down a bit) but only in the context of making comparable spending cuts.

The first part made news, but somehow that latter part never came out through the noise.

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He is, but at least he recognized the need to do it within a balanced budget.

He'd say he was in favor of the Bush tax cuts, for which I faulted him (because I didn't think taxes should be cut till the debt was paid down a bit) but only in the context of making comparable spending cuts.

The first part made news, but somehow that latter part never came out through the noise.
Yes, he cites the failure of Congress to enforce the penalties contained in the Budget Enforcement Act as what caused the spending imbalance. There would be mandatory cuts on all programs if paygo wasn't enforced, an effective deterrant.

McCain says he wants to get this enacted again in that quote I pasted. This would be a very good thing.
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Yes, he cites the failure of Congress to enforce the penalties contained in the Budget Enforcement Act as what caused the spending imbalance. There would be mandatory cuts on all programs if paygo wasn't enforced, an effective deterrant.

McCain says he wants to get this enacted again in that quote I pasted. This would be a very good thing.
Obama says he is for paygo too. I certainly agree with that.
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Re: Dept of Homeland Security, they are getting rave reviews from mayors, governors and other officials for their efficient and speedy assistance in dealing with the hurricanes Gustav and Ike.

But I'm with you that govt needs to be smaller.
Homeland security is a huge waste of our tax dollars. $40 billion a year for this so the FBI and CIA can share information and protect citizens from vandalizing after a hurricane?
If we had a Government either Democrat or Republican that would give us a more humble foreign policy, that would allow "REAL" free trading, and a business partnership with all countries, we wouldn't have to worry about it.
But, we get a bigger government with every administration. Higher debts. Higher taxes. And more burocracy.............
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