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Old 09-04-08, 10:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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US employed 'groundbreaking' spying against Iraqi PM: Woodward

Bob Woodward's new book on the Bush administration is coming out on Monday, and it is extremely critical of Bush and his cohorts. Even John McCain skewers Bush royally in this book.

Which brings me to McCain himself. I am an unabashed McCain basher at the present time, but I have to admit - If McCain does pull off a miracle, and wins this election, I won't really feel bad about it at all. Despite my differences with both McCain and Obama, I will be the first to tell you that either of them will be better than the sack of **** we have had in office for the last 8 years. Yea, I could get behind a McCain presidency. I will still be voting for Bob Barr this fall, but yea - McCain? I can live with him as president.

You ask me why? Very simple. He may be kissing up to Bush right now, but as I have said in the past, people are judged not by what they say, but by what they do. And although I have always used this expression to show how McCain's words belie all the things he is promising, it is also clear that this expression shows that he will not be like Bush at all. To be fair, I must apply that expression equally to both sides of the enigma that is John McCain. When I do apply it equally, I find that John McCain is not such a bad guy, nor would be be such a bad president, compared to what we have now.

Yes, I will continue to bash McCain right up until the election, and I am still going to vote for Barr and Root in November, but you know what? If McCain is the winner, I am more than willing to give him a chance to show that all his BS about being a different leader than Bush is really true. I have a feeling it will be a lot truer than most people think. It may also be a lot truer than the Bushneviks who now support him hope it will be. To the Neocons - Be careful of what you wish for. You just might get it.

If McCain wins, I will definitely give him a chance.

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NOTE: Damn, got carried away, went off on a tangent, and derailed my own thread in the very first post. Is that a DP record?
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I with you Dana, Ill be voting Barr/Root but if the McCainiac wins he deserves a fair chance.
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Bob Barr has announced that he may run for President on the Libertarian ticket. He did not say whether or not Ron Paul approached him on this, but it is my bet he did.

If Bob Barr throws his hat into the ring, he has my vote. Simple as that. If you are really Conservative, and not a donkey in an elephant suit, it should be as simple as that for you too.
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Barr is NOT a Libertarian.

1. Authored and sponsored the Defense of Marriage Act
2. Supported "War on Drugs"
3. Wanted to ban the practice of Wicca in our military

Bob Barr - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have not seen anything to make me believe these things have changed in him. He is is not about real freedom, only his own definition of it.
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I was about to say, this guy doesn't sound like much of a libertarian.

He also voted for the PATRIOT Act, fwiw.
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You learn something every day. My knowledge of him was based on the 1990's, and looks like I was ill informed. Thank you for the education. So much for Barr.
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Not any more. I was ill informed, and of course, my support for Barr came from knowing what he was like in the 1990's. Damn, has he ever changed.
Whatever happened to all that?

http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...an-ticket.html (Barr may run for president on Libertarian ticket)
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In voting for Barr, I am voting the Libertarian party platform. Barr might not be necessarily representative of what I am looking for in America's direction, but the platform definitely is. Can't bring myself to vote for the RINO party, but as I have already stated, I am more than willing to give McCain a chance, if he is elected. If that happens, I hope he does take off the donkey suit.

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