Reverend_Hellh0und

Why do they belong there and not off of martha's vinyards?

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Kandahar

A) Because Texans and Oklahomans are more willing to tolerate them than yuppies who paid millions of dollars for their view, and don't need the jobs.

B) Because Texas and Oklahoma are slightly bigger than an island in Cape Cod.

C) Because Texas and Oklahoma actually HAVE a lot of wind, unlike Massachusetts.

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Reverend_Hellh0und

Ahh elitism, I love it.


Texas is bigger than the alantic ocean? I had no idea!



YOu know they picked off of martha's vinyard because of the consistant winds right?

UtahBill

Let's hope that we don't make the same mistake the Danes made....



Germany Charts New Waters With Offshore Wind Energy Plans | ODAC - The Oil Depletion Analysis Centre

Huge logistical and financial risks

Yet there’s no denying the stringent environmental standards make it more difficult to transport and install the bulky equipment needed for the wind farms.

That includes massive five megawatt turbines, tested on land by some companies, that weigh more than a 100 tons each and are almost 200 meters tall.

Experts say the long distances, deep waters and a lack of sufficient electricity networks make the endeavor at least 2 to 3 times more expensive than on land. Laying underwater cables -- one kilometer of cable is estimated to cost 1.5 million euros -- anchoring the windmills in water that’s more than 25 meters deep, keeping the enormous turbines from corroding and carrying out maintenance work so far out at sea are considered huge logistical and financial challenges fraught with risks.

Since there are no existing models to draw lessons from, all eyes will be on Germany's first ever offshore wind farm being built off the island of Borkum in the North Sea. Three German energy giants, Eon, EWE and Vattenfall plan to install six turbines 45 kilometers away from the island’s shores this year, followed by another six next year.

“We have to remember that the new technology has only been tested on land so far,” said Tiedemann. There may be a few surprises in store at sea,” he said.

One thing Germany's fledgling offshore wind energy industry will be keen to avoid is a repeat of "Horns Rev," a wind farm installed by Danish company Vestas off the Danish coast.

In 2004, all 80 wind turbines and their expensive components had to be completely swapped out with new ones because they began rusting -- despite the fact that they were installed just three kilometers off the shore. For wind farms far out at sea, the consequences would be catastrophic.

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Kandahar

Well if the people in Texas and Oklahoma have a problem with windmills in their towns, then they have every right to petition the government to stop them. But that isn't happening; there's a lot of competition for those windmill projects.

So now you want to farm the entire Atlantic Ocean for wind instead of just Martha's Vineyard? Are you going to stick the windmills on rafts?

Nowhere in the country can compete with the Wind Tunnel, which runs up the central US from Texas to North Dakota, and up into Manitoba.

Reverend_Hellh0und

right just not in liberals backyards.




i'd think we would stick them where the wind is, not just where the po folks live.

funny with all the equality talk of the left, id think you would agree. my bad..





"Mother Nature dictates where you site a wind farm, and Nantucket Sound has some of the best wind resources in the United States," says Gordon. "[It] is an optimal site to locate a wind farm that can produce at peak output all of the electrical requirements of the cape and islands, without any pollution emissions, without any water consumption and zero waste discharge."


Storm Over Mass. Windmill Plan, Plan For Nantucket Sound Wind Farm Raises Debate - CBS News


seems you are mistaking.

Kandahar

Huh?
Like I said, if the people of these communities have a problem with it, they can put a stop to it. But everything I've heard sounds like the communities are excited about the windmills.

Well perhaps "po folks" are able to appreciate the economic benefits that would come with the windmills more than the wealthy people of Martha's Vineyard are.

Perhaps. I don't care if someone puts a few windmills in Martha's Vineyard, but then, I don't live there or vacation there.

UtahBill

I wonder how a wind turbine will stand up to a tornado.....the corridor Pickens is talking about has those in abundance.
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Iriemon

Modern wind gens have flexing blades that cause the rotor to stall in very strong winds (or some other mechanism to avoid overspin).

Of course, I wouldn't expect them to stand up to a direct tornado strike. Not much does.

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Reverend_Hellh0und

Wow.....