Premature Birth Linked to Some Unexpected Later Problems - Page 6

Rightwing86 · 07-20-08, 03:24 AM

I apologize for my poorly shaped attitude. Not only to DP members, but also to 1069. Sorry.

Marilyn Monroe · 07-20-08, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DeeJayH

sorry to hear you are also so anal

but some people see challenge instead of problems
some people see oppurtunities instead of problems
that is the reality some of us live in, and it is quite grounded in reality
just a different way of reacting to the occurences of our life
it also seems to be why some people ar happy throughout their life
whereas others are miserable, because all of the problems
where the happy ones see oppurtunities and challenges that they thrive on

Do you think possibly these optimistic types may just be more competitive then the norm, and that's actually what they are doing, being competitive? I think some people are more optimistic than others, but they can be very irritating just as the pessimistic can be. I find the pessimistic to be a lot more fun at times because they really tell the truth, and the truth is funny.

I'd have to interview the kids that had to live with both types, and see what they thought.

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some women, for example, make childrearing seem like a never ending nightmare
whereas some women just glide through the ups and downs of it all
(catastrophic health issues, and the likes aside) and make it look easy
some people are melodramatic and others just deal with what happens, regardless of what it is

Nobody glides through childrearing in MHO it's too difficult to glide through. I think a lot of people wouldn't do it over (have kids) if they had the choice.

DeeJayH · 07-20-08, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe

Do you think possibly these optimistic types may just be more competitive then the norm, and that's actually what they are doing, being competitive? I think some people are more optimistic than others, but they can be very irritating just as the pessimistic can be. I find the pessimistic to be a lot more fun at times because they really tell the truth, and the truth is funny.

I'd have to interview the kids that had to live with both types, and see what they thought.

Nobody glides through childrearing in MHO it's too difficult to glide through. I think a lot of people wouldn't do it over (have kids) if they had the choice.

I am as pessimistic as they come, but that does not stop me from living life as i described
and as to your last sentence, that is just laughable, unless their child was murdered or had a catastrophic illness

WI Crippler · 07-20-08, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 1069

Parents who actually see their children on a daily basis tend to be realists, as opposed to idealists.

I know I see my kid on a daily basis. My wife and I decided against sending him to a daycare center, so he could be raised by his proper parents. She works weekend nights and I watch him all weekend while she sleeps, which is 3-4 days out of the week depending on the workload. So its pretty much split in half between me and my wife. So I know all about the "realities" of child rearing, and its pretty good as far as I am concerned. It beats whatever I was doing before, which was in retrospect, not nearly as sastisfying or important.

DeeJayH · 07-20-08, 06:50 PM

Let me get this straight Crippler

you have a job
your wife has a job
you have a child you do not put in daycare
you are also going to school

Is that correct?

if so, you must immediately quit one job put your kid in daycare, get on welfare and complain about how you cant make it in America as it has been clearly argued here time and again

WI Crippler · 07-20-08, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeeJayH

Let me get this straight Crippler

you have a job
your wife has a job
you have a child you do not put in daycare
you are also going to school

Is that correct?

if so, you must immediately quit one job put your kid in daycare, get on welfare and complain about how you cant make it in America as it has been clearly argued here time and again

I'm not working. Just in school during the week. My wife got a promotion, and along with her extra pay for night shift weekends, it covers close to what we were making before together. We lived on my $9 an hour job while she went to school to finish up her bachelors, so now its my turn to get an edumacation. Once I finish school and get a job, she'll drop her hours so she can go get her masters, and then after that I plan on getting my masters, prehaps a doctorate if its necessary by the time(planning on work in physical therapy).

Ethereal · 08-07-08, 05:53 PM

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Its a picture of Tiger Woods, at the US Open. He eventually won the US Open, but this shot wasn't even the winning shot or last hole. Why such emotion? 1 month before the US Open, Tiger Woods tore his ACL. Against his doctors advice, he said he would play anyway. Tiger has all the money he could want. He's got plenty of championships, and his place in golfing history is secure even if he never plays another hole for the rest of his life. He had an excuse, backed by strong medical evidence, to not play. He played anyway, and during the course of playing he developed 2 stress fractures in his left leg. He could have quit, and nobody would have blamed him. He continued to play on, in tremendous pain. And on the last hole of regulation, he needed to make a 12 foot long putt just to tie and force a playoff. This is his reaction when he made that putt. It is the picture of a man overcoming and achieving, in the face of very tough odds. It is why he is the best, because he has a drive instilled into him to achieve, if only for the sake of achievement. And this was drilled into him by his father time and time again growing up. His father gave his son the tools to overcome and achieve. Tiger was not born with this. He was taught it. He did not accept the failure of his left leg as an excuse to withdraw. This is what we need to teach our children. Not golf per sey, but the idea that they do not accept failure as an excuse to quit. Any parent who tells their children its not their fault when they fail, ultimatley fail their children.

Rarely does someone impress me with their writing and expression but this is simply brilliant. Well done.

rsixing · 08-07-08, 06:30 PM

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Premature Birth Linked to Some Unexpected Later Problems

By Serena Gordon
HealthDay Reporter
Wednesday, July 16, 2008

WEDNESDAY, July 16 (HealthDay News) -- Being born prematurely can lead to a host of long-lasting medical complications and may also affect other areas of life, such as education and income, even when no disability is apparent, a new study suggests.

In the July 17 issue of theNew England Journal of Medicine, Norwegian researchers report that babies born prematurely are more likely to have cerebral palsy, mental retardation and to need to receive disability payments.

More surprisingly, the researchers also found that when premature babies grew up, even if they had no identifiable disability, the youngest preemies were less likely to have a high income, more likely to be unemployed, more likely to receive Social Security benefits and less likely to become parents.

"The pessimistic view [of our study] is that we have demonstrated an increased risk for a broad spectrum of medical disabilities due to decreased gestational age, and for those without medical disabilities, a lesser but significant risk for a broad spectrum of social outcomes," said the study's lead author, Dr. Dag Moster, a neonatologist at the Haukeland University Hospital.

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The smallest babies -- those born between 23 and 27 weeks -- who survived with no apparent medical disabilities were also 10 percent less likely to finish high school, 20 percent less likely to have completed college, 20 percent less likely to have a high income, 20 percent more likely to receive Social Security benefits and 20 percent less likely to have become parents than babies born full-term.

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This is not news to me. I've been knowing this.
But in this case, there is no satisfaction in being right; in having my long-held understanding validated by the medical community.
Some children aren't meant for this world; when we defy nature and force them to stay, there are consequences. Mere survival must be viewed as triumph; our expectations must be adjusted accordingly.
In my family, premature birth is common, and we have a word to describe our premature loved ones: "half-baked".
As in, "What can you expect? He's only half-baked."
This is as good a term as any to describe what's wrong with people who were born too soon, even when nothing is diagnosably medically wrong.
They weren't meant to be. That's what's wrong with them. That they exist among us when they weren't supposed to is a joy and a triumph, a cause for celebration.
But don't expect much more from them than that.

WTF. So are you saying my two sons, who were both premature births, "aren't meant for this world"?

DeeJayH · 08-07-08, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rsixing

WTF. So are you saying my two sons, who were both premature births, "aren't meant for this world"?

i think her point of view si that your kids would have been better off if they were aborted

guaranteed contribution, albeit short term, to the economy

why roll the dice when we can select on the best to come to term
Sieg Heil

DeeJayH · 08-07-08, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WI Crippler

I'm not working. Just in school during the week. My wife got a promotion, and along with her extra pay for night shift weekends, it covers close to what we were making before together. We lived on my $9 an hour job while she went to school to finish up her bachelors, so now its my turn to get an edumacation. Once I finish school and get a job, she'll drop her hours so she can go get her masters, and then after that I plan on getting my masters, prehaps a doctorate if its necessary by the time(planning on work in physical therapy).

no no no no no no no no no
this is not possible in modern day america
you must immediately go on govt assistance and than complain that it is not enough to get ahead in life
your plan is completely unrealistic and unacceptable