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Old 07-17-08, 12:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So as we figured it comes down to this...stay tuned........

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Even if an amendment were to be passed, the issue isn't just going to go away. People will continue to fight for same-sex marriage.
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Even if an amendment were to be passed, the issue isn't just going to go away. People will continue to fight for same-sex marriage.
It will keep being fought until all people have the same rights despite their legal sexual orientation.

I say end it all now and make all marriage declared as civil unions to the state and "marriage" only a title that a specific religion can declare. This way legally all "marriages" are the same but specific religions can state if they, as a religion, want to not recognize homo or heterosexual couples. This religious recognition would have no impact other then within the religion.
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You do realize the majority now in CA support gay marriage. And if you want a poll fine I'll drum it up. But when I drum it up you must promise to tuck tail and run for couple of days instead of your usual 12 hr stint.
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Re: Voters to Decide Same-sex Marriage in California

A new thread didn't need to be created to continue the same debate that is happening elsewhere. A vote doesn't speak the issue of equal rights, it just means people will have the ability to exercise democracy to enforce bigotry.

Most people, in general, simply don't care about this issue. They just want the Conservative right to shut up already, not because it's a moral issue, but because they are sick of hearing about it. I wouldn't be surprised if people voted in favour of gay marriage just to get back at those shouting so loudly about it.

That said, this is still a minority problem and giving the majority (who are heterosexual) the power to decide the fate of this issue doesn't really make much sense to me. It's like, in the early 20th century, giving white America a vote on if blacks should have rights or not. The Supreme Court exists to challenge the status quo by delivering additional rights to groups whose rights are not sufficiently en par with law. This vote is nothing but a sanctimonious ditch effort from the bigots who are against equality.
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Even if an amendment were to be passed, the issue isn't just going to go away. People will continue to fight for same-sex marriage.
I would abide by the voice of the people of California.........Why won't you?
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It will keep being fought until all people have the same rights despite their legal sexual orientation.

I say end it all now and make all marriage declared as civil unions to the state and "marriage" only a title that a specific religion can declare. This way legally all "marriages" are the same but specific religions can state if they, as a religion, want to not recognize homo or heterosexual couples. This religious recognition would have no impact other then within the religion.
No we should not change marriage.............What we can do is pick a name that gays like and name it that........
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You do realize the majority now in CA support gay marriage. And if you want a poll fine I'll drum it up. But when I drum it up you must promise to tuck tail and run for couple of days instead of your usual 12 hr stint.
No I don't realize that.........I have faith in the people of California........They needed 500,000 signatures to get the measure on the ballot........they got 2,000,000 mostly after the activist judges made law.........In the year 2000 61% voted against gay marriage.........I am willing to abide by the voice of the people in this referendum.........Why aren't you?

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.What we can do is pick a name that gays like and name it that........
What qualifies any of us to describe another person's relationship with their personal life?
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A new thread didn't need to be created to continue the same debate that is happening elsewhere. A vote doesn't speak the issue of equal rights, it just means people will have the ability to exercise democracy to enforce bigotry.

Most people, in general, simply don't care about this issue. They just want the Conservative right to shut up already, not because it's a moral issue, but because they are sick of hearing about it. I wouldn't be surprised if people voted in favour of gay marriage just to get back at those shouting so loudly about it.

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This is new inofrmation......If you read it you would see that the California Supreme Court will not try and block the referendum from happening..........
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