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Old 07-15-08, 08:41 PM   #151 (permalink)
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Re: Obama: We Have To Win In Afghanistan

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A free Iraq with a stable, democratic government and the total purging of Al Qaeda in Iraq. I thought this was clear from the onset of the war.
Does it entail our being present in Iraq?
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Old 07-15-08, 08:45 PM   #152 (permalink)
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I asked a simple question. How is my question an attack? If the shoe fits, Reverend......
If you can't comprehend basic debate technuique and logical fallacies I can not help you.


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Old 07-15-08, 08:46 PM   #153 (permalink)
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You have proof that Iran has a goal of toppling the Iraqi govt.?
Iran and Iraq fought one of the most brutal and bloody wars in history with casualties numbering in the millions. There is a lot of animosity between the Iranian and Iraqi people and that animosity is not going to go away when we leave the region. Iran is already trying to dominate the politics of the region and a weak Iraq dominated by Iran is a terribly destabilizing scenario. Why do you think Iran is such a sticky situation right now? It ain't because they're the good guys.
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Does it entail our being present in Iraq?
It has up until recently. With the Iraqi armed forces up to capacity, it won't which is why I say the war is close to being won and drawn to it's conclusion if the left doesn't caterwaul us into defeat like they did with Vietnam.
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And before that our policy was that we had limited objectives in Iraq, to remove Hussein and his WMDs.
There are still people who are so contemptuous of our intelligence that they contend, even now, that there were only one or two objectives of our invasion.

Here's a pie chart reminder.

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Does it entail our being present in Iraq?
aps, do you want us to leave and then have to go back in?
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There are still people who are so contemptuous of our intelligence that they contend, even now, that there were only one or two objectives of our invasion.

Here's a pie chart reminder.

Did you make up that chart? Please tell me you did. It's f'n hilarious. I commend you on your Word Skills though.
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A free Iraq with a stable, democratic government and the total purging of Al Qaeda in Iraq. I thought this was clear from the onset of the war.
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What battle or geographic area do we need to win/capture in order to "win"?
remember somebody saying there are no stupid questions?


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this is a stupid question even for a loaded one.


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Iran wouldn't invade Iraq.

How do you know? They were at war just a few years ago......
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