Navy Pride

I have a flash for you..That is not Gitmo....The Navy guards the terrorists in Gimo........

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DivineComedy

What is funny if the CIA and FBI did their job, and had arrested all the 911 hijackers before September 11, 2001, like ALL the liberals said would have happened if Gore had been president, making us feel so bad we could cry, they could not have held them long enough to prevent 912. So in a strange way I feel better about 911. It is kind of uplifting...somehow...I feel happy...kind of makes me want to vote for Obama...more endorphins or something...



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Hatuey

I never said it was Gitmo. I simply stated I seriously doubt YOUR statement that we treat them better then prisoners in the U.S. - If we did they'd have the right to challenge their imprisonment.

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Iriemon

Yeah.

The United States of America, shining city on the hill, the hope of liberty for all mankind, and founded upon the principal that all men have certain inalienable rights, does not nab people off the street in secret, lock them away indefinitely, incommunicado, in torture dungeons with no charges, no hearings, no representation, no access to courts, no communication with the outside world, no visition, no trials, and no proof of their guilt.

If someone described a nation that did that, what would come to your mind? For me it would be places like Cuba, the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and other states like that we despise for their feckless disregard of human liberty.

DarkWizard12

They have the same positions on the enviroment, and positions of "right and left" on the economy has been blurred between not only the candidates but the parties themselves.

As for Health Care, none of them know about the issue well enough to make an effective decision.

DarkWizard12

I'm still in favor of the "No quarter" policy. Can't have any POW's if you don't quarter them you know. Issue solved. Just need to get some politician to write the bill.

disneydude

You mean they are treated better than detainees in US Prisons? How can that be Navy....as you believe...US Prisons are country clubs....with Cable TV, Playboy magazines and state of the art gyms.

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Harshaw

Even if all of this were true, it wouldn't keep it from being within the five worst decisions ever handed down.

But if you think the Supreme Court (or any court) doesn't hand down political decisions, I have a fee simple deed for the Brooklyn bridge -- $500. Interested?

(Ask what a lot of these people think about Bush v. Gore.)


So? Still doesn't make this ruling any less one of the five worst decisions the Court has ever handed down.

Sure it does. Because now we'll have grant every single POW we ever take access to domestic civilian courts. That ain't never happened before, and no other country has that restriction.

This decision struck down two such legal frameworks, as passed by Congress: the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 and the Military Commissions Act of 2006. Which were enacted, by the way, because these same justices said that it needed to be done. As Justice Scalia said, "turns out they were only kidding."

It also specifically, by its terms, reached no decision concerning the powers of the President to make these detentions.

But at no time in the past have war prisoners ever been granted habeas corpus or access to civilian courts. This is completely, utterly new (sui generis).

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Harshaw

Never to war prisoners. But we've already gone through that in a different thread.

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Skip

Environment (energy): McCain and Obama Differ on Energy : Red, Green, and Blue

Economy: One clear example is the "gas tax holiday"

Health Care: The issue isn't how much they know. The point is they have different stances.

Make no mistake, Obama and McCain are VERY different candidates and this is just one in a series of issues that they disagree on.

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