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Old 03-26-08, 09:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain

Expanding on a recent survey in PA that showed similar numbers, a new Gallup poll of almost 7,000 Democratic voters shows that significant portions of each candidates supporters would vote for McCain over the other Dem. candidate this fall.

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I guess that's one way for Hillary to buttress her argument that she's more electable... Either way, this is not good news for the Dems, especially given that McCain's favorables are now at 67%.
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Old 03-26-08, 09:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain

You know, at one time McCain's bid for the GOP nomination was considered dead, and look what happened. The only poll that matters is the one in November, in between here and there I'm sure these numbers will fluctuate. The Dems do have to get their crud together if they want to make a tight race, but I wouldn't go about throwing in the towel just yet either. Though it's kinda funny, shows how liberal McCain is if he can pull so many from the Clinton camp.
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Old 03-26-08, 10:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain

as long as we're calling it how we see it:

right now Hillary and Obama are beating up on each other. but late in the summer the liberal media will focus on McCain. and it'll be another very close race, coming down to ohio or florida. McCain will win. McCain's narcolepsy will only become an issue late in his first term. McCain's cabinet will be a breath of fresh air compared to the catastrophe that was the last 7 years, at first. but infighting will ruin it's effectiveness, leading to several crises. McCain's poor economic sense and steadfastness on Iraq and blatant misunderstanding of it, will have devasting consequences. the McCain presidency will end in scandal, but he'll nonetheless have a lasting image of having been a "straight talking maverick."

just tell em Nifty told ya so!
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Expanding on a recent survey in PA that showed similar numbers, a new Gallup poll of almost 7,000 Democratic voters shows that significant portions of each candidates supporters would vote for McCain over the other Dem. candidate this fall.



If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain

I guess that's one way for Hillary to buttress her argument that she's more electable... Either way, this is not good news for the Dems, especially given that McCain's favorables are now at 67%.
I also think this shows how great she will be as a uniter
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You know, at one time McCain's bid for the GOP nomination was considered dead, and look what happened. The only poll that matters is the one in November, in between here and there I'm sure these numbers will fluctuate. The Dems do have to get their crud together if they want to make a tight race, but I wouldn't go about throwing in the towel just yet either.
Of course. I think the most interesting thing this survey offers is a chance to see how the vitriol of the Dems campaign has impacted people's opinions. I wish such a survey had been conducted a few months ago, and would like to see what happens after the nomination is decided.

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Though it's kinda funny, shows how liberal McCain is if he can pull so many from the Clinton camp.
Or how extremely liberal Obama (and to a lesser degree, Clinton) is, which would look exactly the same in the survey results.
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as long as we're calling it how we see it:

right now Hillary and Obama are beating up on each other. but late in the summer the liberal media will focus on McCain. and it'll be another very close race, coming down to ohio or florida. McCain will win.
I'd have to say you're pretty spot on up to here, though depending on the Dem candidate the crucial states might be different ones.

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just tell em Nifty told ya so!
Surprisingly, I don't think this is at all implausible. Hell, if I had to pick a particular scenario to happen, I'd say this is right near the top. I hope the McCain administration does a better job, but this wouldn't terribly surprise me either.
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Re: If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain

I think this is not an important poll for the general election, but it is very important in helping the superdelegates decide who to support.
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Expanding on a recent survey in PA that showed similar numbers, a new Gallup poll of almost 7,000 Democratic voters shows that significant portions of each candidates supporters would vote for McCain over the other Dem. candidate this fall.



If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain

I guess that's one way for Hillary to buttress her argument that she's more electable... Either way, this is not good news for the Dems, especially given that McCain's favorables are now at 67%.
Meh, that's just the sour grapes that comes with the primary season. How many Romney/Huckabee/Giuliani/Thompson supporters said that they would never support McCain? My guess is at least a comparable percentage.

But as soon as the primary's over, most of those same people STFU.
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Meh, that's just the sour grapes that comes with the primary season. How many Romney/Huckabee/Giuliani/Thompson supporters said that they would never support McCain? My guess is at least a comparable percentage.

But as soon as the primary's over, most of those same people STFU.
Navy Pride is the perfect example. First it was Thompson....then Giuliani....now it's McCain. Most people just end up shutting the hell up and going with the party line at the end.
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Meh, that's just the sour grapes that comes with the primary season. How many Romney/Huckabee/Giuliani/Thompson supporters said that they would never support McCain? My guess is at least a comparable percentage.

But as soon as the primary's over, most of those same people STFU.
The analysis from the linked article said basically the same thing, but the headlines are much more titillating and gives us something to talk about...
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These results suggest that it may be normal for some voters to claim early on in the process -- perhaps out of frustration -- that they will desert their party if certain things do not happen to their liking. And it may be equally likely that they fall back into line by the time of the general election. It is worth noting that in Gallup's historical final pre-election polls from 1992 to 2004, 10% or less of Republicans and Democrats typically vote for the other party's presidential candidate.
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