Originally Posted by Guest1

Are you against assisted suicide, or suicide in general?
are you against abortion as well?

Originally Posted by 1069

It's an archaic document that is no longer relevant in this day and age, and in another century will be entirely obsolete.
Even now, it's a real stretch to pretend it's still feasible that we abide by it.
For instance, the government now provides soldiers with weapons; it is not necessary that citizens maintain their own private arsenals of weapons in case they get called upon to go to war.
And... everything else is about the same.
Just silly and anachronistic, in the context of today's world.
Although not as silly and anacronistic as the Bible, I suppose... but nobody really takes that literally.

Originally Posted by 1069

No, because fetuses aren't people, citizens, human beings, or members of society. Although pregnant women are, and in fact, I think both prenatal care and abortion should be government-funded, along with all other health services, including palliative care for the terminally ill, up to and including assisted suicide.
It's all part of basic health care.

Originally Posted by Guest1

Hard to argue against inconsistency.
You win.

Originally Posted by Guest1

You.

Originally Posted by Guest1

You win.

Originally Posted by Guest1

Feel free to

Originally Posted by 1069

Kind of hard to argue against deliberate dishonesty and misrepresentation.
My sentence was actually as follows:

"Right-thinking people in today's civilized society agree that no one in our country should die for lack of basic necessities, even if we have to force these upon them because they are, say, mentally ill."

Are pregnant women "mentally ill"?
Well, no, generally speaking, they are not.
Therefore, no need to "force" health services of any sort, whether prenatal care or abortion, on them.

Are terminally ill patients who desire assisted suicide because pain management is no longer effective "mentally ill"?
Well, that's debatable. I don't think so.
So, we don't need to force further ineffective pain management efforts on them, nor do we need to force further life-prolonging efforts on them.

Are anorexic teenagers who are starving themselves to death "mentally ill"?
Well, probably so. Perhaps we should force food and medical treatment on them, since they are incompetent to decide for themselves that they "aren't hungry" when they weigh only 65 pounds.

Is a homeless diabetic drug addict whose toes are rotting off competent to decide whether he needs medical care? If he doesn't think he needs it, then he probably isn't competent to decide, and we should forcibly hospitalize and treat him before the gangrene spreads into his bloodstream and kills him.

Are you getting the picture now?

Hey, let me ask you this: who is the smartest person you know?



Really, Guest? You mean out of every single person you've ever met, I'm the very smartest one?



Teehee!
Wow, you're right, Guest!
Gee, it's fun quoting people out of context, isn't it?

Hey, do you mind if I put out cigarettes on your forehead?



Hey, you rock, Guest!
You and me are going to be the best of friends, I can already tell.

Originally Posted by 1069

Oh, goody gumdrops.

Originally Posted by Guest1

Fortune will find you when you least expect it.

Originally Posted by 1069

P!ss off, you bloody twerp. You don't come on my forum and make obscure threatening noises at me.