Congress apologizes for rendition and torture of innocent man - Page 7

Iriemon · 10-21-07, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon

Well, obviously he did other wise we wouldn't have sent off to the out-sourced tortured chambers now would we?

LMFAO! Good one!

Iriemon · 10-21-07, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon

If you want to coddle Terrorists and make these fine distinction without a difference between terrorists and those who harbor them - terrorist lovers - then maybe it's okay with you if Osama Hussein and Saddam bin Laden rape your grandmother with a WMD missile.

Amen, Brother. Destroy all them Mohamedans.
The Final Solution is the only solution.

God Bless America
and George Bush Our True Defender

Good point. The only thing that went wrong is that the Syrian Govt didn't just kill him. Then we'd never heard of it.

Iriemon · 10-21-07, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

I don't care if he's guilty of anything or not, ...

And that says it all.

Iriemon · 10-21-07, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

The man was associating with known terrorists, he is an Islamist, so who gives a ****?

Prove it. He was never charged with a crime or found guilty of anything or any collaboration with terrorists.

Trajan Octavian Titus · 10-21-07, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

And that says it all.

No it doesn't, I make no distinction between an Islamist who directly engages in terrorism and the Islamist who shares the very same ideology of those who do, because it is the ideology itself that is the problem and until you grasp that concept you will not be able to understand this enemy and is why you will continue to blame Islamist terrorism on things like U.S. foreign policy, the existence of Israel, or social conditions in the Middle East.

Trajan Octavian Titus · 10-21-07, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

Prove it.

Arar was close personal friends with Abdullah Almalki, who in the 1990s worked directly for Osama Bin Laden’s personal fundraiser “Al Kanadi”, the notorious Ahmed Said Khadr.
After leaving Khadr’s “Human Concern International” terror fundraising front, Mr. Almalki partnered with terrorist suspect Mohammed Kamal Elzahabi in the business of exporting specialized radio equipment to Pakistan and Afghanistan (many details in Saturday’s Globe & Mail expose.)
Mr. Almalki and Mr. Elzahabi were both in Afghanistan in the 1990s. Mr. Elzahabi admits to having met many key Al Qaeda leaders during that time, including the lovely Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, admitted murderer of thousands. Elzahabi was shot in the gut fighting in the Afghanistan civil war in the 1990s, then after recovering in the US, went to Chechnya to continue fighting the Jihad. Maher Arar has never explained a gap in his own personal timeline from 1993, except to the Syrian jailers who allegedly tortured him.
Maher Arar’s lawyer, Lorne Waldman, does not deny that Arar knew Mohammed Kamal Elzahabi - only that Maher “doesn’t recall” knowing him (nice “Clintonian” there, Waldman - and way to bury the lead, Globe & Mail). Also, he freely admits that Maher Arar had his car fixed at Elzahabi’s brother’s garage in Montreal.
With a BA in Computer Engineering from McGill, a Master’s in Telecommunications Technology from INRS, and with access to the most advanced military engineering software in the world through his consulting work at The Mathworks , Arar’s connection to Al Qaeda-linked radio technology exporters to Pakistan and Afghanistan made him a risk that American security agencies were not prepared to live with after 9/11.
When the RCMP turned up the heat on their “Project A-O” in January 2002, the main suspects - Almalki and Ahmad El Maati - had fled the country. Maher Arar also happened to be away in Tunisia at the time, after suddnely walking away from his career with Mathworks in Boston.
When the RCMP asked Arar for an interview upon his return to Canada, he “lawyered up” with one of Ottawa’s highest-profile defense attorneys, Michael Edelson, who also was principal lawyer for the lovely Chuck Guite.
After failing to come to an agreement with the RCMP on terms of an interview, Arar and his family left Canada for a long-term Tunisian vacation (details in the Ottawa Citizen’s comprehensive Arar report from December 2006).
Presumably to do some consulting again for Mathworks, Arar attempted to enter the US via a connecting flight from Switzerland. Given his risk profile, the US authorities decided they did not want him around in North America anymore.

Maher Arar: Why the US won’t (and shouldn’t) let go « Flaggman’s Canada

Iriemon · 10-21-07, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

No it doesn't, I make no distinction between an Islamist who directly engages in terrorism and the Islamist who shares that very same ideology, because it is the ideology itself that is the problem and until you grasp that concept you will not be able to understand this enemy and is why you will continue to blame Islamist terrorism on things like U.S. foreign policy, the existence of Israel, or social conditions in the Middle East.

You just said you could care less whether he's guilty or not. He has a Muslim background and that is all you need to know.

Trajan Octavian Titus · 10-21-07, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

You could care less whether he's guilty or not. He has a Muslim background

No he has an Islamist background which is all I need to know.

26 X World Champs · 10-21-07, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

Maher Arar: Why the US won’t (and shouldn’t) let go « Flaggman’s Canada

Sorry pal but your source is not valid and has no creditability. You're using a BLOGGER to prove the bull**** you're trying to defend. You have provided zero proof from even one creditable and verifiable source. Hell, you might have even created that blog for all we know!

I never thought you were a good guy but now I know you're as Anti-American as the people you claim to hate. You're no better than they are...which is why you should be rendered so that you'll confess to aiding the enemy by helping them recruit more terrorist/soldiers...

justone · 10-21-07, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Middleground

Hey, everyone... I have an idea!

Why don't we strip ToT, put his panties on his head

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Originally Posted by Middleground

TOT... I have to shake my head.

When you shake your head all you have to do is to make sure it goes straight down an up, straight down an up, straight down an up, straight down an up, .. I am sure TOT will be convinced after not to many shakes of your head…

The only use of your head has been estublished...