| *Breaking News* Two of 'Jena Six' defendants present BET award; Originally Posted by Citizen
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11-20-07, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Citizen . You people ... | nothing good can EVER follow that opening  |
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11-20-07, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Citizen Yes, just like the beating at the party was spontaneous. Or did the white kids with beer bottles say let beat up a N*gger tonight. You people amaze me. | It was nothing like the fight that ensued when the thugs trespassed at the private party. Had the thugs not gone where they were not invited, no fight. Had they left when they were requested to leave, no fight. They instigated it. At the school they gathered at a meeting place they choose where they knew the victim would be walking, took their places for the ambush and then completed the ambush. They planned it before it happened, an assault not a fight. Premeditated.
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Originally Posted by Citizen Yes, just like the beating at the party was spontaneous. Or did the white kids with beer bottles say let beat up a N*gger tonight. You people amaze me. | Do you know what premeditation is? Quote:
When I heard one of them black boys say that there’s that white mother f***er that was running his mouth.
“The only thing I heard about the hitlist is when CP told me about it in the AG during 4th block. He said they had a list and my boyfriend was on it. RB and some other guy (colored) was telling CP about it and said that they would be next.
I just kept on walking then when I got by Theo he bumped
into me with his shoulder pushing me & the rest of them was telling’ him to hit me over and over but he never did then when I got passed them I heard someone hollering so I turned around and saw about all of them jumping on and kicking someone.
I was first. I saw a bunch of black boys standing on both sides of the sidewalk. When a boy hollered something like “There is that white mother f***er that was running his mouth.
I was walking up the stairs beside the lunchroom and a huge group of
black boys were coming down there and they all started saying hit him Bailey they was talking to Robert Bailey....then Jesse Beard, Robert
Bailey, Bryant Purvis, Kenneth Purvis, DH, Theo Shaw, and DJ come over to twere I was and started saying they was gonna jump me and beat me ***.
At this time I was surrounded by black boy so I took my hand out of my pockets and just waited for someone to hit me, then CA one of my friends came runnin up to me and said whats going on, Robert Bailey said nothing I don’t want to hit you I’m gettin somebody else
Then he got up and moved then Justin walk talking noise then Mychal Bell
stated I put that on my Mama I knock his black off which that mean he was going hit him so then it was time to go to class and Mychal standing at the door waiting on him to come out so then when he seen him walking to the door Mychal (can’t read) and hit him then
“After we ate lunch we had to go in the gym. I saw a bunch of black boys that were together and they started calling out some white boys names and saying you’re nexst after the names were called.
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11-20-07, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Citizen LOL, You know nothing about this case except hearsay. HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN UP TO 22 YEARS IF HE WERE CHARGED AS AN ADULT! Read the news and not the blogs. SHALL I POST THE FACTS FOR YOU AGAIN! Yeesh. I cannot believe that you are so blind. | NO you don't know anything, on a first offense he would have recieved a light sentence not the full 22 years. Go listen to some qualfied attorney's. That is the irony of trying him as a juvenile, his probation comes into play and they will lock him up for longer than he would have served otherwise on the reduced charge. Quote: |
If you read the articles concerning the incident you will see that the black kids were taunted by the white kid and that resulted in the beating.
| It was equal taunting and taunting dose not justify an assault., especially a premeditated gang assault where the victim once knocked unconcious and on the ground is given more blows, lethal blows. Quote: |
It does matter who kicked him in the head if you are going to charge Bell as and adult and not the other 5 students.
| It doesn't matter who kicked or how many times, they were all a part of the assault. If you are involved in an armed robbery it doesn't matter who carried the gun, if someone is killed it doesn't matter who pulled the trigger. Quote: |
Bell's charge was excessive. Any smart person knows that.
| No it wasn't and your claiming "smart people know that" is laughable. Quote: |
Like the judges on the curcuit court.
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He has not commit three assults.
| He was on probation for two this was the third. Quote: |
Read the article posted. Those other cases were settle. One was a breaking and entering in which no charges were given. If you don't know the facts, then you have no right to an opinion.
| Mychal Bell, one of the "Jena Six" teenagers charged with beating a white student in Jena, La., i s back in jail for violating terms of a previous probation, according to his attorney.
LaSalle Parish Judge J.P. Mauffrey sentenced Bell to 18 months in a juvenile facility for an earlier conviction of two counts of simple battery and two counts of criminal destruction of property, Carol Powell Lexing, one of his attorneys, said Thursday. 'Jena 6' teen Bell back in jail - USATODAY.com
About time they got this thug off the streets. |
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| Re: Two of 'Jena Six' defendants present BET award And it has been reported that one of the battery charges was for punching a girl in the face. With a man, he needs five friends and the element of surprise to sneak up from behind. |
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11-20-07, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Citizen LOL, You know nothing about this case except hearsay. HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN UP TO 22 YEARS IF HE WERE CHARGED AS AN ADULT! Read the news and not the blogs. SHALL I POST THE FACTS FOR YOU AGAIN! Yeesh. I cannot believe that you are so blind.
If you read the articles concerning the incident you will see that the black kids were taunted by the white kid and that resulted in the beating.
It does matter who kicked him in the head if you are going to charge Bell as and adult and not the other 5 students.
Bell's charge was excessive. Any smart person knows that. Like the judges on the curcuit court.
He has not commit three assults. Read the article posted. Those other cases were settle. One was a breaking and entering in which no charges were given. If you don't know the facts, then you have no right to an opinion. | Being on probation means that you can't get into trouble again and you have to follow certain rules mandated by the court, or you have to serve the time in jail already given by a judge during your original sentencing. Bell was on probation. This is why he is in jail. These other convictions can be used against him, especially now that his case is in juvenile court.
The judges in the circuit court DID NOT rule that the charges were excessive. Their ruling was that Bell could not be TRIED as an adult for those charges. He is now being charged as a juvenile for the same charges. Also, the other 4 boys who have yet to be tried are all being tried as adults, because, unlike Bell who was 16 when the attack happened, the others were 17. Therefore, in LA, they can be charged as adults for these charges. The last student was 14 and has already been to court. Those proceedings and their results are closed because he is a juvenile.
Oh, by the way, yes, absolutely I think a student who brings a gun to school and starts shooting people deserves to be tried as an adult. He/she believes that they are adult enough to purposely shoot/kill another person, then he/she should have to face adult punishments. The law says they can't be executed, but they should face any other possible punishments an adult would face. Any reasonable person should be able to see that teenagers do know right from wrong, and even younger children know that killing others is wrong. I have little sympathy for teenagers who go on killing sprees in their high school, then claim it was due to other people teasing them or picking on them.
I think you need to start reading up more on this case and not accepting OPINION PIECES as your "news sources". I know you don't find Wikipedia "trustworthy", but at the very least you could scan through the 113 references at the bottom and pick out some actual news stories to read. There are plenty of opinion pieces there too. (PS Opinion pieces aren't blogs, they are published opinions from people who work for different news agencies.) |
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Originally Posted by Citizen I demand that you tell me where you got your information if it was not from the blogs and Wikipedia (which BTW is known not to be a credible source of information) Chanda has posted references and so have i. Those on your side have Posted Wikipedia and Blogs. So where did you get your information Post a link to support your claims. | Im not posting my sources for a third time.
The Christian Science Monitor is NOT a blog.
The Jena Times is NOT a blog.
And You even responded to a post of mine where I STATED that I used the Christian Science Monitor and the Jena Times, Then after that post, you make this one saying only one source has been used from the entire Anti-Final Call.com Storyline side. (which is where the AP got their info).
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Originally Posted by Caine Im not posting my sources for a third time.
The Christian Science Monitor is NOT a blog.
The Jena Times is NOT a blog.
And You even responded to a post of mine where I STATED that I used the Christian Science Monitor and the Jena Times, Then after that post, you make this one saying only one source has been used from the entire Anti-Final Call.com Storyline side. (which is where the AP got their info). | The Christian Science Monitor article and The Jena Times=one biased source, Craig Franklin, who has acted as a spokesperson for DA Reed Walters.
The most trustworthy sources available are the actual witness accounts. Of all the witness accounts, four of them vindicate Bryant Purvis. Only one witness named him as an attacker. Why was he charged with attempted murder on the basis on that evidence?
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