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Old 11-19-07, 11:30 AM   #371 (permalink)
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Actually, I don't agree the current charges are unfair or excessive at all and I can see where the DA could get the attempted murder charges. I just think even the DA knew he couldn't get a conviction for attempted murder. I actually think Bell should be tried as an adult, but that is up to the state, not me. I believe more teenagers should be held accountable for their actions, especially by the time they reach 16 and have 4 juvenile convictions already.
Well, I am happy to say that the curcuit court of LA does not agree with you. Under curent law for those offenses, he must be charged as a juvenille. And how could you say it was attempted murder? Do you really believe that these kids intended to murder him? So do you think that kids who bring guns to school and go on a shooting rampage should be tried as an adult?
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Old 11-19-07, 11:32 AM   #372 (permalink)
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This is reported in witness statements to police, including the victim, Robert Bailey, Jr.
The story you haven’t heard (unless you’ve been paying attention) « Friends of Justice
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Old 11-19-07, 11:41 AM   #373 (permalink)
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Well, I am happy to say that the curcuit court of LA does not agree with you. Under curent law for those offenses, he must be charged as a juvenille.
Which will end up putting him behind bars longer than had he been tried as an adult as he should be.

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And how could you say it was attempted murder?
A premeditated assault, blow from behind to incapacitate him, continue lethal blows to head while incapacitated.

That ALL has been posted in detail here.

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Do you really believe that these kids intended to murder him?
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So do you think that kids who bring guns to school and go on a shooting rampage should be tried as an adult?
Depends, in most cases if it was premeditated and they are 16 or over I would say so. Wouldn't you?
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Which will end up putting him behind bars longer than had he been tried as an adult as he should be.



A premeditated assault, blow from behind to incapacitate him, continue lethal blows to head while incapacitated.

That ALL has been posted in detail here.



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Depends, in most cases if it was premeditated and they are 16 or over I would say so. Wouldn't you?
As an Adult, he would have gotten up to 22 years. Do you know anything about this case. That is what the protest was about. As a junenille he will get a much less sentence. Yeesh

It was not premeditated. He up on the facts. They were taunted by the white kid in the hallway before they attacked him. Where did you get this information that it was premediated?

No one knows exactly what happened. No one knows who kicked him in the head. It could have been Bell. Maybe it was all of them. Needless to say the attack got out of hand but it started because of the taunting.

Yes, and it does not depend. But in most cases they are not. Bell would have gotten more time than most kids who go on a shooting rampage in their schools. How fair would that have been. Thank god for the curcuit court in LA.
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Old 11-19-07, 12:24 PM   #375 (permalink)
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The D.A claims that he did not know about the beer bottles. The boy attacked at the party claims that he was not given a chnace to testify. I am not sure if he was bleeding frm the head. But all reports indicate that he was hit by beer bottles and there were more than one person who attacked he and he did not hit back.
He claims he needed stitches, this was in your posted source. You don't need stitches if you aren't bleeding. Those gotten from the police don't agree with this. Oh wait that right, you don't consider CSM or JenaTimes news sources. So where are these "reports"? You have posted only one article saying that Bailey was hit by more than one person with beer bottles, the one below, which doesn't match any other account I've read.

Citizen, you are changing your story, because you posted this earlier
"The night after the fire, Robert Bailey Jr. and some of his black friends tried to enter a party in town mostly attended by whites. Bailey was attacked and struck with beer bottles once he finally got inside; one of the students was later charged with simple battery and given probation." (#306)
Note that this one says that Bailey wasn't alone. Also, Justin Sloan was not a student. But I also noticed in this post that you linked an opinion piece, not a news article. And in one before that(#278) you linked another opinion piece that actually condemns the Jena Six for the attack and all the cries of racism.
In fact most of what you have posted has been opinion pieces from news sources. There may have been some actual news stories, but most avoid any details besides those involving the trial and only mention some of the other incidents and the nooses. Even the news articles from respected news agencies disagree with each other on how many nooses were hanging.
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As an Adult, he would have gotten up to 22 years. Do you know anything about this case. That is what the protest was about. As a junenille he will get a much less sentence. Yeesh
Yes I know about this case, do you? I've heard defense attorneys and prosecutors ad infintum state that it being his first offense as an adult his sentence would probably have been a year with time off for good behavior while as a juvenile with this probation alreay in effect he'll be locked up until he turns 18.

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It was not premeditated.
It was premeditiate, not in the heat of discussion. They all walked away and then they gather and waited for him to walk out and then while a couple distracted him another assaulted him from behind. Premeditated.

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No one knows exactly what happened. No one knows who kicked him in the head. It could have been Bell. Maybe it was all of them. Needless to say the attack got out of hand but it started because of the taunting.
They were all a party to it, doesn't matter.

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Yes, and it does not depend. But in most cases they are not.
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Bell would have gotten more time than most kids who go on a shooting rampage in their schools.
Facts not in evidence, and you confuse what the maximum sentence allowed is with what a judge would have done for a first offender.

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How fair would that have been. Thank god for the curcuit court in LA.
Because he'll end up doing more time keeping this thug who has now committed THREE assaults off the streets?
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It was not premeditated. He up on the facts. They were taunted by the white kid in the hallway before they attacked him. Where did you get this information that it was premediated?
Amazing, all six, without any premedtation, spontaneously and simultaneously choose to beat him into unconscious.
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So do you think that kids who bring guns to school and go on a shooting rampage should be tried as an adult?
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Amazing, all six, without any premedtation, spontaneously and simultaneously choose to beat him into unconscious.
Yes, just like the beating at the party was spontaneous. Or did the white kids with beer bottles say let beat up a N*gger tonight. You people amaze me.
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Yes I know about this case, do you? I've heard defense attorneys and prosecutors ad infintum state that it being his first offense as an adult his sentence would probably have been a year with time off for good behavior while as a juvenile with this probation alreay in effect he'll be locked up until he turns 18.



It was premeditiate, not in the heat of discussion. They all walked away and then they gather and waited for him to walk out and then while a couple distracted him another assaulted him from behind. Premeditated.



They were all a party to it, doesn't matter.





Facts not in evidence, and you confuse what the maximum sentence allowed is with what a judge would have done for a first offender.



Because he'll end up doing more time keeping this thug who has now committed THREE assaults off the streets?
LOL, You know nothing about this case except hearsay. HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN UP TO 22 YEARS IF HE WERE CHARGED AS AN ADULT! Read the news and not the blogs. SHALL I POST THE FACTS FOR YOU AGAIN! Yeesh. I cannot believe that you are so blind.

If you read the articles concerning the incident you will see that the black kids were taunted by the white kid and that resulted in the beating.

It does matter who kicked him in the head if you are going to charge Bell as and adult and not the other 5 students.

Bell's charge was excessive. Any smart person knows that. Like the judges on the curcuit court.

He has not commit three assults. Read the article posted. Those other cases were settle. One was a breaking and entering in which no charges were given. If you don't know the facts, then you have no right to an opinion.
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