LaMidRighter

It's a really touchy topic here in my state so I simply wanted to make sure to have my thoughts well planned out and give myself some cool off time before going off , or before doing anything.

*EDIT- added ,or for continuity

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LaMidRighter

Yeah, it's a damn shame because he expects people to apologize for misspeaking(and by that I mean he'll take a trip to drum up more supporters) or otherwise treating black people unfairly(like firing an incompetant employee who happens to be black, or arresting a perp who happends to be black, etc.), but when he causes a race riot or slurs another race he absolutely will not apologize at any cost. Hypocritical much?

Chanda

So, no trial required? Bell's trial was a sham and worse than no trial at all.

Apparently, you do think 22 years in prison is the appropriate punishment for an attack resulting in a concussion and swollen eye. I disagree, no matter what the color pattern of attacker and victim shake out to be.

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Edify_Always_In_All_Ways

The charge (one of them, at least) was attempted murder (later reduced, but the aggravated assault charge should have had this taken into account), caused by the fact that the kicking could have- unlikely but possibly- caused death, and the concussion could have been cerebral hemorrhage instead- etc., etc. I believe the jail sentences are gratuitous considering the age of the defendants, the the sentence was fair according to Lousiana state law.

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Chanda

Schoolyard fights are a common occurrence, and most of them could have disasterous consequences, but most of them are not criminally prosecuted. An aggravated assault charge requires the use of a weapon and in this case the deadly weapon was...Bell's tennis shoes! The 2-day trial ended without the defense lawyer calling a single witness. How can the sentence be fair if the trial was not fair? According to witnesses, the victim provoked the fight which resulted in relatively minor injuries for himself, but years in prison for his attackers. This is justice? I don't see it.

LaMidRighter

[quote] Did I say or imply any of that? No, I explained how things work here, I should know, I've been here my whole life. The trial was not a sham because of that little rule of thumb I pointed out earlier. If I....A white man beat another person, white, black, or other and put them in the hospital then I may be incarcerated for aggravated battery which does come with a prison term, considering it's a felony. For violent felonies such as this, juveniles can be charged.

Whether you disagree or not is irrelevent because the fact is states have criminal statutes which are applied to everyone, what the kids did was not only corrected by, but covered in my states statute, read back and you'll see that I encourage everyone to seek legal means within my state's laws to figure out what the sentence should be, we don't need race baiters coming here and creating an injustice for their own needs, what they have done is subvert justice, the kids will probably get less than they deserve under Louisiana state law now which will only encourage further actions of this nature, maybe someone will really get hurt next time. I tell you what, your side can deal with the consequences.
By the way, concussions are serious injuries, there are different types, and they can cause complications resulting in brain damage or death. I don't know why people are trying to play that down.

LaMidRighter

[quote] In Louisiana they are. No, in Louisiana it only requires major bodily injury, that is why people can be prosecuted if they hospitalize someone. How is that the fault of the prosecution or judge, the defender is an idiot, and if said defender did that out of malice because the defendants were black, then he can be disbarred. That opinion can only be rendered by an appeals court, activists and citizen's without a Louisiana Bar association membership or not qualified or authorized to render that opinion, thus, this is a moot point. Uh, no, taunting someone does not justify being ganged up on or beaten, sorry, you'll have to do better than that. . Under the law, yes it is. If you injure someone you are incarcerated by due process according to criminal statute and you serve your sentence, that IS justice.

Chanda

Justin Barker wasn't hospitalized. He was treated in the ER released after 2 1/2 hours.

Regardless of whose fault it was, the judge (whose duty it is to ensure a fair trial), the court-appointed lawyer, or the prosecution who trumped up the charges, Bell didn't get a fair trial.

No, it doesn't, but his instigation of the fight by using the N word and "@ss whipping" taunts should have some bearing on the case. He was portrayed by the DA as a totally innocent victim. On his show, Tucker Carlson repeatedly claimed Barker was attacked "just because he was white." Not true. And the fact that the taunting immediately preceded the attack proves the conspiracy charges were unwarranted.

Yes, well it is "due process" in this case that is being questioned.



Do Barker's injuries in this photograph really justify 100 collective years in prison, in your opinion?

GottaHurt

In answer to your question, yes.

Now, can you say with 100% absolute certainty, what lasting effects from the concussion Barker received, will affect him for the rest of his life?

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LaMidRighter

[quote] He was admitted to the Emergency Room, which is in the hospital, thus he was hospitalized.



A judge is a referee, nothing more, nothing less. The Defending attorney has the right to call as many or as few witnesses as seen fit, as long as they are disclosed. The only power the judge has over these grievences that you mention come after a defense motion, which was not submitted by the public defender. Again, how is it logically the fault of the prosecution or judge.


First of all, how many witnesses said he behaved that way, even if he did, did it warrant and !@#-whipping of that magnitude, no, it didn't, especially when it took a gang of people to deliver it. You don't know that, and it's convevient that the story of the taunting came out after the Jena six were brought up on serious charges and convicted isn't it, they would have had a decent defense based on "fighting words" but didn't use it, meaning someone's story changed, again, don't assume you know what happened in this state unless you've been able to read the story from the beginning.
Prove he taunted them without speculation before you try to use this as an excuse, but it doesn't matter, because they still went over the line as defined by the statute of self-defense.



And has been discussed the questions have little to no merit.

Would you say the same thing if that was your child in the picture? One word for you, concussion(brain injury).