| *Breaking News* Two of 'Jena Six' defendants present BET award; Originally Posted by Chanda
The 3 noose-hangers may or may not have known specifically about the KKK symbolism, but ... |
11-14-07, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Chanda The 3 noose-hangers may or may not have known specifically about the KKK symbolism, but I believe they knew it was a racial threat, and that is why the nooses were hung from the "white tree," only hours after the black protest there. | But the protest happened after the nooses, not before.
And the fact that the nooses came up after the charges and everything, couldn't that be just an excuse by the defendents to attempt to justify the attack? I think a lot of people may be trying to cover for things that are reported as having happened.
I believe there are a lot of people who take such a pessimistic view on how bad race relations are that they don't allow themselves to see that maybe the story is not about racism, but rather about a group of students who attacked another student and who don't want to be punished for it. Their story could be totally true, and the whites in town are just covering for them. But then again, they would not be the first people ever charged for a crime who see an opportunity to get themselves off by just bringing more attention to this case than is deserved. The fact that it was investigated by a man from the Justice Dept who is the same race they are and says this case is being handled fairly causes me to believe that the facts in this case have been miscontrued in their favor in an attempt to get them off or at least a more lenient punishment. And now, the defendents have an even bigger reason to want to continue to claim that they were unfairly treated because they are getting treated like celebrities and a lot of money donated to them. I see no good reason for Washington to lie or even not investigate this case fully. His department has nothing to lose to call this DA out if he is being racially biased. |
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11-14-07, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jallman That depends. Did he have priors? | It's been reported that he didn't. It's unknown whether any of the other white attackers had priors, and they weren't charged with anything. How many of the Jena 6 had priors? Quote: |
Did he cause hospitalization?
| No. Justin Barker wasn't hospitalized either. He was admitted to the ER for tests and observation, with injuries that were probably comparable to Bailey's. Quote: |
Was it a brutal beating or was it a common fist fight?
| It sounds comparable to the Dec 4 incident. Robert Bailey said his attackers used a beer bottle or bottles as weapons, however there is no documentary proof since he didn't seek medical attention. However, there is a good chance his attackers were wearing footwear.
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Originally Posted by Chanda It's been reported that he didn't. It's unknown whether any of the other white attackers had priors, and they weren't charged with anything. How many of the Jena 6 had priors? | From my understanding, a couple of the Jenna 6 had priors for assault. (who woulda thunk it?)
And if the white attackers did not have priors and were not taken into custody, I can make no conjecture about that. Quote: |
No. Justin Barker wasn't hospitalized either. He was admitted to the ER for tests and observation, with injuries that were probably comparable to Bailey's.
| "Probably comparable" is not a very convincing defense. Did Bailey receive or seek medical treatment for his "injuries" or did he not? Quote: |
It sounds comparable to the Dec 4 incident. Robert Bailey said his attackers used a beer bottle or bottles as weapons, however there is no documentary proof since he didn't seek medical attention. However, there is a good chance his attackers were wearing footwear.
| Regardless...no documentation means it never happened. Did Bailey or didn't he receive medical treatment? |
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Originally Posted by roguenuke But the protest happened after the nooses, not before. | There was a protest after the noose hanging, but I was referring to a protest (of sorts) by Kenneth Purvis (who had asked permission) and his cousin, Bryant who stood under the tree in defiance of white-only tradition. The next morning, the nooses appeared. Coincidence? Quote: |
I believe there are a lot of people who take such a pessimistic view on how bad race relations are that they don't allow themselves to see that maybe the story is not about racism, but rather about a group of students who attacked another student and who don't want to be punished for it.
| Why are you disregarding all the white-instigated incidents prior to the Dec. 4 attack? Quote: |
The fact that it was investigated by a man from the Justice Dept who is the same race they are and says this case is being handled fairly
| How did Washington determine the case was being handled fairly? He didn't even try to determine prosecutorial misconduct, which is the basis of most complaints. When asked about it at a community forum Washington said, "... selective prosecution is very hard to prove, and in order to do so he would have to have to “dig in his head” to determine if Walters was treating black and white people differently."  Washington is just another Bush appointee doing "a heckava job." The Town Talk - www.thetowntalk.com - Alexandria-Pineville, Louisiana Quote: |
causes me to believe that the facts in this case have been miscontrued in their favor in an attempt to get them off or at least a more lenient punishment.
| Why do you think a group of students (identities in dispute) should be charged with attempted murder and jailed for 20+ years each, in an attack resulting in a swollen eye and minor cuts and bruises? Maybe the attempt is to get them at least a reasonable punishment. |
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Originally Posted by jallman From my understanding, a couple of the Jenna 6 had priors for assault. (who woulda thunk it?) | Source? Quote: |
And if the white attackers did not have priors and were not taken into custody, I can make no conjecture about that.
| The point is, why were they not all arrested, as the black students were in the Dec. 4 incident? Why were they not charged with attempted murder since they were wearing deadly footwear? Unequal justice. Quote: |
"Probably comparable" is not a very convincing defense. Did Bailey receive or seek medical treatment for his "injuries" or did he not?
| Bailey was attacked inside the fair barn, then the attack continued outside by Sloan and other white attackers. The fight continued until the police arrived. Don't you think it's likely some "injuries" occured in a fight that continued that length of time? Remember, Barker was taunting Bailey for getting his "@ss whipped." Doesn't an "@ss whipping" result in significant injury? Just because he didn't seek medical treatment for his "injuries," that doesn't mean there were none. It's just possible he didn't have health insurance.  |
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Originally Posted by Chanda Source? | Michyl Baily or however he spells it WAS ON PROBATION FOR TWO PRIOR ASSAULTS!!!!!
You have been told that repeatedly why do you not play ignorant. And if you do claim you did not know that and never did they you just proved you are totally ignorant of the facts in this case.
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Originally Posted by Chanda Source? | this just shows how biased you are to defend criminals
it has been posted numerous times in this thread
same as a holocaust denier because it makes their feable argument seem better Quote: |
The point is, why were they not all arrested, as the black students were in the Dec. 4 incident? Why were they not charged with attempted murder since they were wearing deadly footwear? Unequal justice.
| one is a group of people having a brawl
the other is a group of people causing grave physical harm that requiered teh victim to be taken to teh hospital, which, by law, ups the charges
but lets excuse it cause they may have been called niggers
that excuses everything
just like when i killed a black person for calling me a cracker
i was acquited for justifiable homicides
because he called me a name, i was allowed to kill him
God bless america
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Originally Posted by Stinger Michyl Baily or however he spells it WAS ON PROBATION FOR TWO PRIOR ASSAULTS!!!!!
You have been told that repeatedly why do you not play ignorant. And if you do claim you did not know that and never did they you just proved you are totally ignorant of the facts in this case. | I know about Bell's record. I was asking about the others. |
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Originally Posted by Chanda I know about Bell's record. I was asking about the others. | why are you asking ??? you seem to know everything about these tragically oppressed and persecuted fine upstanding youth
just go to ESPN and show him how wrong he is  |
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Originally Posted by DeeJayH maybe my memory is nto hte best, spent the day on the golf course under teh hot sun drinking beers
but sure seems to be alot of new claims in your post citizent taht I do not recall from teh previous ~250 posts here
particularly your claim about the DA being best friend/worst enemy
seems taht would have gotten more press
care to provdie a link??? | Looks like its from a dead website http://www.jenasix.org/timeline.html
now reproduced at sites such as Jena Six: SPEAKOUT Denver!
"facts"? LOLOLOLOL!!!!! |
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