Two of 'Jena Six' defendants present BET award - Page 2

jallman · 10-19-07, 06:13 PM

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thought somebody would ahve pointed out by now that i was not disagreeing with the OP

I saw that. I figured it was obvious to everyone except...

Trajan Octavian Titus · 10-19-07, 06:21 PM

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It just leaves you speechless. Two thugs who knocked someone unconscious and then beat and kicked him to the head giving him a concussion from which he could have died are honored by black society.

What have we come to? Where is the outrage?

The Town Talk - www.thetowntalk.com - Alexandria-Pineville, Louisiana

So if I go jump a black guy and beat him within an inch of his life because he is black will I get an award too? I thought they would be opposed to hate crimes over at the BET. This is truly disgusting, aren't these ****ers supposed to be in jail?

Trajan Octavian Titus · 10-19-07, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chanda

There was a series of incidents. In one incident, a black student was allegedly hit over the head with a bottle by a relative of the victim.

Michael Bell who is a member of the Jena 6 refused to leave a party and he and his friends started a fight in the street outside the party.

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According to some witnesses, the victim was taunting one of the Jena 6, with his middle finger in his face, about the beating his relative gave him.

And why weren't they called to testify?

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Witnesses heard an attacker say, "This is what you get for running your mouth." There are two sides to the story, and too many variations to make a judgment. However, it sounds absurd to call a student's tennis shoes a lethal weapon,

Let me and my friends repeatedly kick you in the head. I know people who have been killed from getting kicked in the head it happened to a kid in the parking lot across from my high school.

Chanda · 10-19-07, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus

Michael Bell who is a member of the Jena 6 refused to leave a party and he and his friends started a fight in the street outside the party.

That's one version of events. Here is another:

On Friday, December 1, there was a private party, attended mostly by whites, at the Fair Barn. Five black youths, including 16-year-old Robert Bailey, attempted to enter the party at about 11pm. According to U.S. Attorney Washington, they were told by a woman that they were not allowed inside without an invitation. The five youths persisted, stating that some friends were already in attendance at the party. A white man, who was not a student, then jumped in front of the woman and instigated a fight. After the fight was broken up, the woman told both the white man and five black youths to leave the party. Once outside, the black students were involved in another fight with a group of white men, who also were not students. Police were then called to investigate. Several months later, Justin Sloan, a white male, was charged with simple battery for his role in the fight and was put on probation. Bailey later stated that one of the white men had broken a beer bottle over his head, but there are no records of medical treatment being given.

jena6 wikipedia account

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And why weren't they called to testify?

Good question...

"The case is currently in dispute as the court-appointed public defender did not call a single witness in his attempt to defend Bell."

jena6 wikipedia account

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Let me and my friends repeatedly kick you in the head. I know people who have been killed from getting kicked in the head it happened to a kid in the parking lot across from my high school.

How do you know he was repeatedly kicked "in the head"? According to Wikipedia, "The concussion he suffered has been described in the media as resulting either from a punch to the face or from hitting his head on concrete when thrown to the ground. While on the ground, Barker was kicked repeatedly."

Do you think 22 years in prison is the appropriate punishment for an attack resulting in a concussion and swollen eye? Especially since there were
conflicting witness accounts on whether he (Bell) was even involved in the attack.

LaMidRighter · 10-19-07, 07:10 PM

I've been largely silent on this one simply because it's a local issue. People here are defending the attackers a little too much though and saying the punishment is harsh. The rule of thumb is if you send someone to the hospital in Louisiana you get an aggravated assualt charge, no matter what the color pattern of attacker and victim shake out to be. Here are the facts, six kids close enough to the age of legal adult status sent another kid to the hospital by ganging up and beating on him, the secondary factors are not related to the attack therefore making it unjustifyable and not a self-defense situation. There, I'm done.

jallman · 10-19-07, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LaMidRighter

I've been largely silent on this one simply because it's a local issue. People here are defending the attackers a little too much though and saying the punishment is harsh. The rule of thumb is if you send someone to the hospital in Louisiana you get an aggravated assualt charge, no matter what the color pattern of attacker and victim shake out to be. Here are the facts, six kids close enough to the age of legal adult status sent another kid to the hospital by ganging up and beating on him, the secondary factors are not related to the attack therefore making it unjustifyable and not a self-defense situation. There, I'm done.

As usual, you are right on the mark. Bravo!!!

LaMidRighter · 10-19-07, 07:28 PM

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As usual, you are right on the mark. Bravo!!!

Thanks, I just wanted to lend a little sanity to this. I don't find it to be as racist as people point it out to be. I have no problem with intelligent people of all colors and creeds discussing the merits of this reasonably, but as usual, the same old crowd that turns a town issue into a racial tradgedy strikes again, and everyone looks a little worse to each other when they leave town.

LaMidRighter · 10-19-07, 07:45 PM

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Thanks, I just wanted to lend a little sanity to this. I don't find it to be as racist as people point it out to be. I have no problem with intelligent people of all colors and creeds discussing the merits of this reasonably, but as usual, the same old crowd that turns a town issue into a racial tradgedy strikes again, and everyone looks a little worse to each other when they leave town.

Thought I should expand on this, by saying the usual crowd, I mean Jackson, Sharpton, et. al, not just anyone who forms an opinion on the matter. The fact is that Sharpton and Jackson, along with the small time players who subscribe to their model of protest make their livings on creating racism where it probably doesn't exist, I have zero problems with people trying to maybe lessen the sentences of the kids involved within the Jena community and by other state means where that fails, but have a huge problem with the two biggest race bait scumbags coming in to take charge of the legal process of my state(or anyone else's).

jallman · 10-19-07, 07:46 PM

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Thought I should expand on this, by saying the usual crowd, I mean Jackson, Sharpton, et. al, not just anyone who forms an opinion on the matter. The fact is that Sharpton and Jackson, along with the small time players who subscribe to their model of protest make their livings on creating racism where it probably doesn't exist, I have zero problems with people trying to maybe lessen the sentences of the kids involved within the Jena community and by other state means where that fails, but have a huge problem with the two biggest race bait scumbags coming in to take charge of the legal process of my state(or anyone else's).

Sharpton is the biggest racist and race baiter of all. Look at what he caused with the Crown Heights riots way back when...

DeeJayH · 10-19-07, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LaMidRighter

I've been largely silent on this one simply because it's a local issue. People here are defending the attackers a little too much though and saying the punishment is harsh. The rule of thumb is if you send someone to the hospital in Louisiana you get an aggravated assualt charge, no matter what the color pattern of attacker and victim shake out to be. Here are the facts, six kids close enough to the age of legal adult status sent another kid to the hospital by ganging up and beating on him, the secondary factors are not related to the attack therefore making it unjustifyable and not a self-defense situation. There, I'm done.

WTF took you so long to chime in for than

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