Yale Law, Newly Defeated, Allows Military Recruiters - Page 2

new coup for you · 10-02-07, 01:32 PM

That was more of a hint towards he has some kind of alumni status, but yeah I guess that was unclear of me. The football and the fraternity was used more as confirmation of his academic inabillity.

Anyway, anyone who would join the millitary will not be missed in the Ivy League.

ARealConservative · 10-02-07, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RightinNYC

And the federal government is happy to give them the funding when they are in compliance with federal statutes.

It was my impression that the interviews themselves are taking place on campus, which is the issue.

withhold funds from universities that do not extend the same welcome to military recruiters as they do to other recruiters.

So we know that Yale allows other recruiters that discriminate based on sexual orientation?

Seems to me like they are using the same criteria for all recruiters- anybody that doesn't discriminate is welcome, any that does is not welcome. Perfectly consistent.

RightinNYC · 10-02-07, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by new coup for you

That was more of a hint towards he has some kind of alumni status, but yeah I guess that was unclear of me. The football and the fraternity was used more as confirmation of his academic inabillity.

Not sure why you think that'd be a confirmation of academic inability. Ignorant stereotypes aside, I played sports and ran a fraternity and am doing alright for myself academically.

And this is completely random, but a friend of mine (who was actually the president of my frat) grew up a couple doors down from the Pataki's and tutored the younger brother. He said he was very smart for his age, for what its worth.

new coup for you · 10-02-07, 01:48 PM

listen I'm in college, ok? This "i'm ok, you're ok" crap about stereotypes is fine for awhile, but frat guys are retarded. I interact with them frequently. Kappa Sig is my neighbor.

RightinNYC · 10-02-07, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ARealConservative

withhold funds from universities that do not extend the same welcome to military recruiters as they do to other recruiters.

So we know that Yale allows other recruiters that discriminate based on sexual orientation?

Seems to me like they are using the same criteria for all recruiters- anybody that doesn't discriminate is welcome, any that does is not welcome. Perfectly consistent.

That quote is taken out of context. The actual statute says:

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Section 983. Institutions of higher education that prevent ROTC access or military recruiting on campus: denial of grants and contracts from Department of Defense, Department of Education, and certain other departments and agencies

(a) Denial of Funds for Preventing ROTC Access to Campus. - No funds described in subsection (d)(1) may be provided by contract or by grant (including a grant of funds to be available for student aid) to an institution of higher education (including any subelement of such institution) if the Secretary of Defense determines that that institution (or any subelement of that institution) has a policy or practice (regardless of when implemented) that either prohibits, or in effect prevents -
(1) the Secretary of a military department from maintaining, establishing, or operating a unit of the Senior Reserve Officer Training Corps (in accordance with section 654 of this title and other applicable Federal laws) at that institution (or any subelement of that institution); or
(2) a student at that institution (or any subelement of that institution) from enrolling in a unit of the Senior Reserve Officer Training Corps at another institution of higher education.

(b) Denial of Funds for Preventing Military Recruiting on Campus.
- No funds described in subsection (d)(2) may be provided by
contract or by grant (including a grant of funds to be available
for student aid) to an institution of higher education (including
any subelement of such institution) if the Secretary of Defense
determines that that institution (or any subelement of that
institution) has a policy or practice (regardless of when
implemented) that either prohibits, or in effect prevents -
(1) the Secretary of a military department or Secretary of
Homeland Security from gaining entry to campuses, or access to
students (who are 17 years of age or older) on campuses, for
purposes of military recruiting; or
(2) access by military recruiters for purposes of military
recruiting to the following information pertaining to students
(who are 17 years of age or older) enrolled at that institution
(or any subelement of that institution):
(A) Names, addresses, and telephone listings.
(B) Date and place of birth, levels of education, academic
majors, degrees received, and the most recent educational
institution enrolled in by the student.

Yale was clearly in violation of that statute. Now they aren't.

RightinNYC · 10-02-07, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by new coup for you

listen I'm in college, ok? This "i'm ok, you're ok" crap about stereotypes is fine for awhile, but frat guys are retarded. I interact with them frequently. Kappa Sig is my neighbor.

Okay. And I'm a year out. I obviously can't speak as to what it's like at your school, but at my school, the frats were definitely not the bastion of the retarded. All but one of my graduating class in the frat was in the top 25% of their school, and every one of us is in a good grad school or at a good job.

I imagine that at a place like Yale, its even moreso like that.

Navy Pride · 10-02-07, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chevydriver1123

Since Yale is privately funded they have the right to do what they want. But I do think its pathetic that they wont let our armed forces recruit at their college.

Yale receives ferderal funding...

new coup for you · 10-02-07, 01:55 PM

I don't get why Yale needs federal funding. Don't they have enough money?

RightinNYC · 10-02-07, 01:56 PM

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I don't get why Yale needs federal funding. Don't they have enough money?

Pretty much every research university receives tens or hundreds of millions of dollars from the federal government, mostly for their medical or research programs.

Navy Pride · 10-02-07, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by new coup for you

like someone that got into Yale would join the millitary

You might be surprised my left wing friend.......The military is and honorable profession......