Marine says song about killing Iraqis a joke

How sad that some Marines find entertainment in a song about killing Iraqis, sick humor to say the least. Haditha and now this? What is going on with our troops in Iraq? Oh yeah... a sick, sad and unjustifiable war.

Bring our troops home soon before we lose all that is precious to our country, before we lose what made this country so compassionate so great, before we lose our edge! Please!








http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13300342/

JACKSONVILLE, N.C. - A Marine corporal seen in a video singing about killing members of an Iraqi family says the song was a joke.

“It’s a song that I made up and it was nothing more than something supposed to be funny, based off a catchy line of a movie,” Cpl. Joshua Belile said in Wednesday’s Daily News of Jacksonville.

In a four-minute video called “Hadji Girl,” a singer who appears to be a Marine tells a cheering audience about gunning down members of an Iraqi woman’s family after they confront him with automatic weapons...

KidRocks said:

Bring our troops home soon before we lose all that is precious to our country, before we lose what made this country so compassionate so great, before we lose our edge! Please!



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It seems there is no compassion here anymore except for a few and they are ridiculed every time they open their mouth to oppose anything. It's sad really. If it's a song he made up to be funny I would like to know what type of person would laugh at it.

You know what, I actually believe the soldiers...they have to find humor somewhere...you could look at it like...full metal jacket. It doesn't make it right, but I believe them.

Oh boy. This is just really really bad news. This after the marines are being charged for the murder by Kilo Company last November.
Not good for the image we're trying to project over there. In fact it enforces what the islamic jihadists are preaching.

Oh lord. Yes this song was callous and blah, blah, blah. But come on, these are 18 year-old boys we're sending over there to fight. Of course many are going to develop a morbid sense of humor. And it's a well known fact that 18 year-old boys have the mental maturity of 12 year-olds. At least most of them. He's just a kid putting some humor into what he sees on a daily basis. Cut him some slack.

Pull your head out of your asses people. Are we so desperate that we look to grandstand on this too?

You ever heard the term, "napalm sticks to kids?"

It's a term used in a ditty while running in formations. Many of our ditties involve killing people. It is motivating. It is the same sort of stuff found on Army Bases too. I guess some people don't stop to consider that a Marine's sole purpose is to kill. Do you people even realize that the Marine Corps doesn't have one unit that isn't centered around destruction and death? Even our Engineers are trained in explosives. There are approximately 177,000 active duty Marines who are warriors and trained killers that sing and run to these type of chants and songs. How dare they not sing about Care Bears, Bugs Bunny, and little froggies. :roll:

"My main objective is to be professional, but to kill him."

I'm gonna throw my support behind the "Lighten up" crowd. That is all.

KidRocks said:

How sad that some Marines find entertainment in a song about killing Iraqis, sick humor to say the least. Haditha and now this? What is going on with our troops in Iraq? Oh yeah... a sick, sad and unjustifiable war.

Bring our troops home soon before we lose all that is precious to our country, before we lose what made this country so compassionate so great, before we lose our edge! Please!








http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13300342/

JACKSONVILLE, N.C. - A Marine corporal seen in a video singing about killing members of an Iraqi family says the song was a joke.

“It’s a song that I made up and it was nothing more than something supposed to be funny, based off a catchy line of a movie,” Cpl. Joshua Belile said in Wednesday’s Daily News of Jacksonville.

In a four-minute video called “Hadji Girl,” a singer who appears to be a Marine tells a cheering audience about gunning down members of an Iraqi woman’s family after they confront him with automatic weapons...

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No wonder they hate us.

How stupid. Right up there with that corporation that just got off that put up a vidoe offing Iraqi civilians to some Elvis tune.

KidRocks said:

How sad that some Marines find entertainment in a song about killing Iraqis, sick humor to say the least. Haditha and now this? What is going on with our troops in Iraq? Oh yeah... a sick, sad and unjustifiable war.

Bring our troops home soon before we lose all that is precious to our country, before we lose what made this country so compassionate so great, before we lose our edge! Please!








http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13300342/

JACKSONVILLE, N.C. - A Marine corporal seen in a video singing about killing members of an Iraqi family says the song was a joke.

“It’s a song that I made up and it was nothing more than something supposed to be funny, based off a catchy line of a movie,” Cpl. Joshua Belile said in Wednesday’s Daily News of Jacksonville.

In a four-minute video called “Hadji Girl,” a singer who appears to be a Marine tells a cheering audience about gunning down members of an Iraqi woman’s family after they confront him with automatic weapons...

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You must enjoy trying to demonize marines and soldiers.You would proably post a thread involving a story of a marine or soldier giving a an Iraqi a vegetarian burrito MRE or maybe a story of one of them spitting on the ground.

GySgt said:

Pull your head out of your asses people. Are we so desperate that we look to grandstand on this too?

You ever heard the term, "napalm sticks to kids?"

It's a term used in a ditty while running in formations. Many of our ditties involve killing people. It is motivating. It is the same sort of stuff found on Army Bases too. I guess some people don't stop to consider that a Marine's sole purpose is to kill. Do you people even realize that the Marine Corps doesn't have one unit that isn't centered around destruction and death? Even our Engineers are trained in explosives. There are approximately 177,000 active duty Marines who are warriors and trained killers that sing and run to these type of chants and songs. How dare they not sing about Care Bears, Bugs Bunny, and little froggies. :roll:

"My main objective is to be professional, but to kill him."

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I think this is another attempt by the left to demonize our military,why else would they turn a mole hill into a mountain?Alot of these individuals who hate the military proably realize that a soldier or marine's job involves shooting or bowing up things and that is why they make every lame *** attempt to demonize them.They proably hope that one day the military is not seen as something noble so that they can further and more openly bash our troops.Instead of printing bull **** stories they would be printing top ten reasons why they think the military is a force of evil.

jamesrage said:

I think this is another attempt by the left to demonize our military,why else would they turn a mole hill into a mountain?Alot of these individuals who hate the military proably realize that a soldier or marine's job involves shooting or bowing up things and that is why they make every lame *** attempt to demonize them.They proably hope that one day the military is not seen as something noble so that they can further and more openly bash our troops.Instead of printing bull **** stories they would be printing top ten reasons why they think the military is a force of evil.

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Here we go again... It's the same old " How dare the left actually report on what is going on?" They hate the troops. :roll:

Look, if a cop busted into your house and for no reason beat the crap out of you, I would hope that some journalist would report it. Does that mean that the left hates cops? Of course not.

If a cop sang a song about how fun it would be to kill and rape little homeless girls in New York, I'd have a problem with that too.

America needs to hold itself to a higher standard than this. The worst part is that the Islamic media will play this Marine's tape over and over to recruit new jihadists.

Turn it around - how would you feel if Fox was showing a video of an Al Quada member singing a little ditty about beheading troops? Would it make you hate them more?
Would you be more savage and ruthless in your next attack?

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Ok so let me see if this sums things up for most people.

Songs about killing Iraqis: Good
Songs criticizing the president (Ala Dixie Chicks): Bad

Is this correct?

TheNextEra said:

Ok so let me see if this sums things up for most people.

Songs about killing Iraqis: Good
Songs criticizing the president (Ala Dixie Chicks): Bad

Is this correct?

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No. I like the Dixie Chick, and while I might not sing along to a song about killing Iraqis these are 18 year-old boys we're dealing with. You can't tell me you're honestly surprised that one of them came up with it.

TheNextEra said:

Ok so let me see if this sums things up for most people.

Songs about killing Iraqis: Good
Songs criticizing the president (Ala Dixie Chicks): Bad

Is this correct?

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Well, President Bush is an individual and the President of U.S. and not a whole general civilization.

As far as good or bad, I guess you can sum it up anyway you like. That's your right. While you exercise that right, you might take the time to recognize that the young kid who made this song up in order to entertain a bunch of hardened warriors, and wears a uniform to ensure you maintain that right, has some rights of his own.

Songs of hugging and making out with the enemy aren't too popular. After time spent in a war zone, it can be pretty easy to generalize the population.

GySgt said:

Well, President Bush is an individual and the President of U.S. and not a whole general civilization.

As far as good or bad, I guess you can sum it up anyway you like. That's your right. While you exercise that right, you might take the time to recognize that the young kid who made this song up in order to entertain a bunch of hardened warriors, and wears a uniform to ensure you maintain that right, has some rights of his own.

Songs of hugging and making out with the enemy aren't too popular. After time spent in a war zone, it can be pretty easy to generalize the population.

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I don't think this young marine's service in Iraq has anything to do with 'protecting our rights to summarize' but good job on the attempt of emotional journalism.

Not to belittle anyone's service, but, let's be honest here.

GySgt said:

Well, President Bush is an individual and the President of U.S. and not a whole general civilization.

As far as good or bad, I guess you can sum it up anyway you like. That's your right.

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He is currently the leader of this U.S. and therefore his actions represent the U.S. at this time. He is a valid target for criticism and his actions represent the country so the country is also a valid target for criticism as such.

GySgt said:

While you exercise that right, you might take the time to recognize that the young kid who made this song up in order to entertain a bunch of hardened warriors, and wears a uniform to ensure you maintain that right, has some rights of his own.

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First of all, I didn't criticize the soldier did I? All I was showing is the twisted mindset of allowing one group the right to do something and praising it and then denouncing another group for exercising their rights and calling them traitors.

That is what is happening here. If you don't agree with the Dixie Chix, fine, I have no problem with that. But when I hear it go so far as calling them traitors, that is just as ridiculous (And no I am not accusing you of calling them traitors, I just have hear that term used for them). They have an opposing view and they are excercising that right, that's it.

GySgt said:

Songs of hugging and making out with the enemy aren't too popular. After time spent in a war zone, it can be pretty easy to generalize the population.

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I personally have no problem with it. What I have a problem with is people being hypocritical and denouncing the Dixie Chix as traitors for excercising their rights all the while praising those soldiers that sing about killing.

Me personally, I hold no anomosity towards the Dixie Chix. I am not a fan of their music, but I am also not denouncing them either as traitors. I simply do what I do with any speach that I do not like. I ignore it and move on.

::Major_Baker:: said:

I don't think this young marine's service in Iraq has anything to do with 'protecting our rights to summarize' but good job on the attempt of emotional journalism.

Not to belittle anyone's service, but, let's be honest here.

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Now you've probably heard this a thousand times but I'll reiterate it just in case your slow.

The Armed Forces protect your 'rights to summarize' and all your other rights. No matter where they are in the world serving this country their service is protecting your rights. Now you can scream and call that emotional journalism but its the simple truth. Without these men and women who have served in this nation's military whether they served in 1812, 1942 or 2006 Americans would not have many of the rights they enjoy today.

Tell you what get a petition to disband our Armed Forces and see how long your rights last without the service of people like the marines. Maybe it wouldn't actually be a bad thing if we lost all our rights... because we've had them so long and we have so many of them that some people don't appreciate them anymore. If we lost them maybe those people would realize why men and women in their hundreds of thousands over the course of history have died in the service of this nation. To protect those rights.

LogicalReason said:

Now you've probably heard this a thousand times but I'll reiterate it just in case your slow.

The Armed Forces protect your 'rights to summarize' and all your other rights. No matter where they are in the world serving this country their service is protecting your rights. Now you can scream and call that emotional journalism but its the simple truth. Without these men and women who have served in this nation's military whether they served in 1812, 1942 or 2006 Americans would not have many of the rights they enjoy today.

Tell you what get a petition to disband our Armed Forces and see how long your rights last without the service of people like the marines. Maybe it wouldn't actually be a bad thing if we lost all our rights... because we've had them so long and we have so many of them that some people don't appreciate them anymore. If we lost them maybe those people would realize why men and women in their hundreds of thousands over the course of history have died in the service of this nation. To protect those rights.

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That's a good story. and I do respect all people that have served. I respect them for doing an honrable job.
But honestly, what rights have been preserved or given to me by a troop serving in Iraq, in 2006?

Just because I do not see them specifically protecting any rights for me, does not mean I want the military disbanded, or do not respect them.

LogicalReason said:

The Armed Forces protect your 'rights to summarize' and all your other rights. No matter where they are in the world serving this country their service is protecting your rights. Now you can scream and call that emotional journalism but its the simple truth. Without these men and women who have served in this nation's military whether they served in 1812, 1942 or 2006 Americans would not have many of the rights they enjoy today.

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I really hate it when people throw this around like some dirty sock in people's face. I served my country for over 20 years. I NEVER demand respect because of it. I joined the military because I wanted to serve my country and felt it was the right thing to do, not because I wanted respect from people.

If people say thank you to me, fine I am very appreciative of their gratitude. If people ignore me or say anything derogatory to me because of my military service, I ignore them and move on in my life.

There are other professions, such as police officers, fire fighters, and many other civilian personnel that have given their lives to protect people as well. Soldiers are not the only people that deserve respect and sadly, people seem to forget this as well.

LogicalReason said:

Tell you what get a petition to disband our Armed Forces and see how long your rights last without the service of people like the marines. Maybe it wouldn't actually be a bad thing if we lost all our rights... because we've had them so long and we have so many of them that some people don't appreciate them anymore. If we lost them maybe those people would realize why men and women in their hundreds of thousands over the course of history have died in the service of this nation. To protect those rights.

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And then you're hitting the other end of the extreme spectrum where is seems you think the military is above criticism. It is not. People are NOT traitors for criticizing the actions of the military, adminstration, or this country. They are excercising what they may feel is right. The simople fact is that America IS NOT perfect and there are times she makes mistakes either in part or whole. Those that criticize problems they feel are wrong are more patriotic then someone who does not IMO.

I may disagree with them, but I would never ask them to be silenced so that the military can somehow be shielded away from their criticism. Sometimes the military does things that people do not like and they voice their opinions over it. Right or wrong, they have that right and I wouldn't ever want that to change.

::Major_Baker:: said:

I don't think this young marine's service in Iraq has anything to do with 'protecting our rights to summarize' but good job on the attempt of emotional journalism.

Not to belittle anyone's service, but, let's be honest here.

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Yes let's.

1) It's a song. Meant for a military audience and got out through the Internet to the ears of PC bleeding hearts everywhere.

2) The clip drew national attention only after it was publicized by the Council on American-Islamic Relations, an activist organization that has much to gain — namely, raising funds and its own profile — by picking a fight on the national stage.

3) There are ditties about killing people from all America's wars that can be heard on any Army and Marine Corps base.

4) People that are whining about it know no more about their military than they do about the issues at hand.

5) Who said anything about protecting your freedoms in Iraq? I said he wears a uniform that protects your rights. Which means he is certainly entitled to sample a bit of that freedom by singing about what ever he wants.

6) Dark humor generated by battlefield conditions is nothing new; it is probably as old as combat itself. When individuals are faced with the grim tasks of war, it is understandable that they might seek release through songs and jokes that will fall flat — or worse, seem cruel — when taken out of context, especially by civillians who stand back on raised platforms seeking their next building block for their political stage.

How's my honesty?

TheNextEra said:

First of all, I didn't criticize the soldier did I?

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Seemed like you did, but anyway...

This is what I'm talking about. He was not soldier. He was a Marine. Two different branches. This is not just directed to you, but if people are going to take the time to criticize, they should at least take the time to understand what they are even criticizing.

TheNextEra said:

I personally have no problem with it. What I have a problem with is people being hypocritical and denouncing the Dixie Chix as traitors for excercising their rights all the while praising those soldiers that sing about killing.

Me personally, I hold no anomosity towards the Dixie Chix. I am not a fan of their music, but I am also not denouncing them either as traitors. I simply do what I do with any speach that I do not like. I ignore it and move on.

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I don't care for Country Music either way.

GySgt said:

Yes let's.

1) It's a song. Meant for a military audience and got out through the Internet to the ears of PC bleeding hearts everywhere.

2) The clip drew national attention only after it was publicized by the Council on American-Islamic Relations, an activist organization that has much to gain — namely, raising funds and its own profile — by picking a fight on the national stage.

3) There are ditties about killing people from all America's wars that can be heard on any Army and Marine Corps base.

4) People that are whining about it know no more about their military than they do about the issues at hand.

5) Who said anything about protecting your freedoms in Iraq? I said he wears a uniform that protects your rights. Which means he is certainly entitled to sample a bit of that freedom by singing about what ever wants.

6) Dark humor generated by battlefield conditions is nothing new; it is probably as old as combat itself. When individuals are faced with the grim tasks of war, it is understandable that they might seek release through songs and jokes that will fall flat — or worse, seem cruel — when taken out of context, especially by civillians who stand back on raised platforms seeking their next building block for their political stage.

How's my honesty?

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I have not even commented on the song. I understand all you have said here.


I commented on the idea that every soldier, no matter what conflict he/she is invloved in, is actively protecting my rights. I respect soldiers, but I do not think this is quite accurate.

Iraq was not threatening my 'rights to summarize', much less any other right, nor was kosovo, nor was somalia. These guys deserve respect, for sure, but they do not deserve compliments for something they are not really doing.

At first I thought it was a fake.
It really looks like a voice over.

It’s actually kind of funny.

::Major_Baker:: said:

Iraq was not threatening my 'rights to summarize', much less any other right, nor was kosovo, nor was somalia. These guys deserve respect, for sure, but they do not deserve compliments for something they are not really doing.

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Your rights are protected just by the mere presence of his uniform. This country is kept safe not by anyone's refusal to invade, but by our Naval fleet that floats about in the sea. You are protected by the deterrent of hundreds of thousands of Marines, soldiers, and Airmen who train their asses off in the woods of North Carolina, the woods of Georgia, and in the skies of Ohio so that they can deploy and sit in foreign countries and embassies, which protect our allies from invasion. Allies that our country practices free trade with, which affects your economy. Allies that, with our help, hold the wolves at bay as it did directly after WWII in Europe and Asia. As it does in South Korea and in the Middle East.

They are the best in the world and the world knows it. Because of that uniform, which stands guard and ready to pounce, this country has been relatively terrorist free all the way up to 9/11. Because of Iraq and Afghanistan, future apocalyptic terrorist who wish to make a long term impact will be detterred from hitting our soil. Many, eventually will resort to attacking our military instillations abroad where the violence belongs instead of on my civillian population.

It doesn't matter what that young troop is doing anywhere in this world, he is, indeed, protecting your ***.

This is the first I have heard of this, so it's obviously not that huge a deal, nor should it be. Soldiers have to unwind sometimes, I can't ask them to kill, then turn around and try to shame them when they write a song like this, it's totally unreasonable.