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Obama flubs in guest book, dates visit "2008"

You wouldn't know fact and objectivity if it came up and bit you in the ass.

I really don't you, youre a canadian who seems absolutely determined to spout the extreme right wing american rhetoric even at the cost of looking as rediculous as you do.

Your ass has been thoroughly handed to you by CC, spud and Boop in this thread... And I'm loving every minute of watching it.

More crudeness without debate.

The Lefties are getting hysterical!
 
That's true, which made me curious as to why you would find the need to flaunt that knowledge.

Considering the comment that triggered the exchange, I realized you were not privy to that knowledge.
 
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More crudeness without debate.

The Lefties are getting hysterical!

Debate what?

Your pointless rants with no substance.

The thing that I've noticed about you, is youre pretty good with your words, you can make a non sensical argument appear valid when it is not.

So whether your ranting against Muslims or Obama, we see through it, you've got nothing, no substance, no argument, just blind, determined right wing rhetoric, that doesn't require a second thought.
 
No, Mr. Grant. I. I'M getting crude today.

I'm not going to say the entire right side is delusional and lying just because you woke up in that condition.

Oh, so you feel you are not a Leftist, huh? I'd be ashamed to admit it also.

But have it your way. You're getting crude.
 
Debate what?

Your pointless rants with no substance.

The thing that I've noticed about you, is youre pretty good with your words, you can make a non sensical argument appear valid when it is not.

So whether your ranting against Muslims or Obama, we see through it, you've got nothing, no substance, no argument, just blind, determined right wing rhetoric, that doesn't require a second thought.

So unlike this well thought out post of yours.

The Lefties really are in a lather today! !

You poor dears.
 
Oh, so you feel you are not a Leftist, huh? I'd be ashamed to admit it also.

But have it your way. You're getting crude.

Same discussion is happening in another thread. I don't do anything because I'm a liberal. I live my life.

I happen to be liberal.

Now, I know you are going to dig your little heels in, and continue insulting me based on my political beliefs. I can tell you that by the top of the hour, I will forget that we even had this discussion. Therefore, I can't bother knotting my knickers on your behalf.

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debate what?

Your pointless rants with no substance.

The thing that i've noticed about you, is youre pretty good with your words, you can make a non sensical argument appear valid when it is not.

So whether your ranting against muslims or obama, we see through it, you've got nothing, no substance, no argument, just blind, determined right wing rhetoric, that doesn't require a second thought.

qfmft.

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Oh, so you feel you are not a Leftist, huh? I'd be ashamed to admit it also.

But have it your way. You're getting crude.

And you're getting personal because you were proven wrong. The moment you realised it our came the attacks against 'the left'.
 
Can't be compared. He can do commonplace and caring with the common. That wasn't a commoner. It was the QUEEN.

Well the QUEEN is not all that significant to a US President. He treated her kindly and naturally, and if SHE was offended, SHE didn't say so.
 
And you're getting personal because you were proven wrong. The moment you realised it our came the attacks against 'the left'.

Actually, if you had been following the thread, I was complying with Ms BDBoop.
 
Same discussion is happening in another thread. I don't do anything because I'm a liberal. I live my life.

I happen to be liberal.

Now, I know you are going to dig your little heels in, and continue insulting me based on my political beliefs. I can tell you that by the top of the hour, I will forget that we even had this discussion. Therefore, I can't bother knotting my knickers on your behalf.

:2wave:

I sincerely hope your knickers remain knot free.
 
Well the QUEEN is not all that significant to a US President. He treated her kindly and naturally, and if SHE was offended, SHE didn't say so.

Oh, now see? I didn't realize you were one of her inner circle. My bad.
 
No, I'm claiming that it would be impossible to get an objective opinion from you on Left wing people since you aren't one. Perhaps you were at one time, but you aren't now. The fact that you refer to them as "Commi" says pretty much all I need to know about your opinion.
I was a Commi-Lib. I was a Pelosi-Obama styled believer. I believed the poison, and that's what it is. I was open minded and changed over time... I know this pisses Libs off, but fact is fact. I changed when presented with fact that proved socialism fails on all levels in its attempt to provide the greatest good for the greatest number.

So, you see... I am objective... open minded and willing to learn. But nobody has come fore and presented the case that socialism works, and the facts pile up daily that it is a destructive ideology. But some folks cling bitterly to it despite the facts.

So, having been a Commi-Lib (with an open mind), I can make an objective case for the left, but their whole idiocy is emotion based and is easily deconstructed.

I mean really... a system where you have a third party that has no personal interest, offers no flexibility, is corrupt, wasteful and detached??? This is worthy of a defense? ROTFLOL... perhaps for the parasites that feed off others and use the beast as their conduit to scheme a portion of other folks labor.

The Left promotes a putrid and disgusting system based on division and envy. It's why they can't sell it straight to the people.

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I was a Commi-Lib. I was a Pelosi-Obama believer. I believed the poison, and that's what it is. I was open minded and changed over time... I know this pisses Libs off, but fact is fact. I changed when presented with fact that proved socialism fails on all levels in its attempt to provide the greatest good for the greatest number.

So, you see... I am objective... open minded and willing to learn. But nobody has come fore and presented the case that socialism works, and the facts pile up daily that it is a destructive ideology. But some folks cling bitterly to it despite the facts.

So, having been a Commi-Lib (with an open mind), I can make an objective case for the left, but their whole idiocy is emotion based and is easily deconstructed.

I mean really... a system where you have a third party that has no personal interest, offers no flexibility, is corrupt, wasteful and detached??? This is worthy of a defense? ROTFLOL... perhaps for the parasites that feed off others and use the beast as their conduit to scheme a portion of other folks labor.

The Left promotes a putrid and disgusting system based on division and envy.

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When you pick lean, you sure do go all-in, don't you?
 
Sounds like your cheese done slid clear off your cracker. I can see going from one side to the other, since that's what happened to me. But I can't see your last paragraph as being in the realm of normal. The entire system is corrupt, and nobody has any high moral ground to stand on.
 
And, as usual, apdst demonstrates his hyperpartisanship and lack of objectivity. So, tell us, apdst... did YOU call Palin stupid when she screwed up on North Korea?

And YOU are objective? ROTFLOL...

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I was a Commi-Lib. I was a Pelosi-Obama styled believer. I believed the poison, and that's what it is. I was open minded and changed over time... I know this pisses Libs off, but fact is fact. I changed when presented with fact that proved socialism fails on all levels in its attempt to provide the greatest good for the greatest number.

I guess the reason I doubt this is because you are using completely ridiculous stereotypes to somehow prove that you were once a Liberal. The fact that you have to use said stereotypes makes it hard to believe.

So, you see... I am objective... open minded and willing to learn. But nobody has come fore and presented the case that socialism works, and the facts pile up daily that it is a destructive ideology. But some folks cling bitterly to it despite the facts.

So what? Even if you were once a Liberal, it doesn't somehow qualify you to make sweeping judgments of all Liberals.

So, having been a Commi-Lib (with an open mind), I can make an objective case for the left, but their whole idiocy is emotion based and is easily deconstructed.

And many of your arguments aren't emotionally based? :lol:
I've got news for you, the extremes of both sides are hyper emotional. I know many Conservatives would like to think of themselves as logical and unemotional, but that is only because they truly think their ideals are 100% logical. Politics are emotional because people have a set of beliefs and values that are important to them and many want to express them as loud as they possibly can.

I mean really... a system where you have a third party that has no personal interest, offers no flexibility, is corrupt, wasteful and detached??? This is worthy of a defense? ROTFLOL... perhaps for the parasites that feed off others and use the beast as their conduit to scheme a portion of other folks labor.

Politics are full of corruption. Corruption isn't just on one side of the table. However, I wouldn't expect you to grasp that concept considering how blatantly partisan you are.

The Left promotes a putrid and disgusting system based on division and envy. It's why they can't sell it straight to the people.

More hollow and regurgitated talking points. :roll:
 
When you pick lean, you sure do go all-in, don't you?

I was a supporter of state owned industry (Oil company like PetroCan for example), anti death-penalty, pro-abortion, government run health care... you name it... I was for the Commi-Lib line. I was young and dumb... what can I say. I thought it was the best way to organize society. Then the real world arrived.

The transformation to a Conservative took time, but I don't see any reason to accept any of the Commi-Lib positions. Why? They're destructive.

So... I unapologetically poke my finger in the eyes of the Libs for 99.99% of them here aren't reachable by any other means. They're closed minded... hence the link in my signature line. You think any Libs have taken the time to read the free book and look at themselves? Wanna make a bet?

I'm objective, open minded... willing to learn, but nobody has made the case for socialism... quite the opposite. And when Bush 43 spent like a Lib... I was vocal in opposition.

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I guess the reason I doubt this is because you are using completely ridiculous stereotypes to somehow prove that you were once a Liberal. The fact that you have to use said stereotypes makes it hard to believe.
ROTFLOL... ridiculous stereotypes? Have you seen their elected representatives and what they defend... ROTFLOL.


Ahhhhhhhhh... now we're reduced to "So what"

Even if you were once a Liberal, it doesn't somehow qualify you to make sweeping judgments of all Liberals.
Sure it does. The Lib party since the late 60's wasn't JFK's party. They're largely nutso.

And many of your arguments aren't emotionally based? :lol:
If you read threads... I use fact and links, and my conversion wasn't a whim. It took years.

I've got news for you, the extremes of both sides are hyper emotional.
It's true... I'll laugh at and am equally disgusted at Libs and their idiotic ideas. I enjoyed Air Amerika, I really did... it was great profanity laced entertainment. Another example of lacking objectivity I guess.

I know many Conservatives would like to think of themselves as logical and unemotional, but that is only because they truly think their ideals are 100% logical.
Conservatism is based on logic and understanding human nature. It's why this nation had great success. Our Founders left us with Conservative documents that have become "living and breathing"... ahhhh... somehow socialist in their narrative!!!

Politics are emotional because people have a set of beliefs and values that are important to them and many want to express them as loud as they possibly can.
Well yes... but the problem is many of these beliefs are not thought through. They're purely based on emotion, not rational thought.

Politics are full of corruption. Corruption isn't just on one side of the table. However, I wouldn't expect you to grasp that concept considering how blatantly partisan you are.
ROTFLOL... I've always stated I'm a partisan... I believe in Conservatism, I've discarded the Commi-Lib cloak... NOW... that belief embraces limited government which sends responsibility to states and localities... which reduces the chances for corruption, and is easier to root out.

More hollow and regurgitated talking points. :roll:
And you finished with a fury of lameness.

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ROTFLOL... ridiculous stereotypes? Have you seen their elected representatives and what they defend... ROTFLOL.



Ahhhhhhhhh... now we're reduced to "So what"


Sure it does. The Lib party since the late 60's wasn't JFK's party. They're largely nutso.


If you read threads... I use fact and links, and my conversion wasn't a whim. It took years.


It's true... I'll laugh at and am equally disgusted at Libs and their idiotic ideas. I enjoyed Air Amerika, I really did... it was great profanity laced entertainment. Another example of lacking objectivity I guess.

Conservatism is based on logic and understanding human nature. It's why this nation had great success. Our Founders left us with Conservative documents that have become "living and breathing"... ahhhh... somehow socialist in their narrative!!!

Well yes... but the problem is many of these beliefs are not thought through. They're purely based on emotion, not rational thought.

ROTFLOL... I've always stated I'm a partisan... I believe in Conservatism, I've discarded the Commi-Lib cloak... NOW... that belief embraces limited government which sends responsibility to states and localities... which reduces the chances for corruption, and is easier to root out.


And you finished with a fury of lameness.

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It's hard to take even one of your replies serious enough to answer them all individually, so I'll just respond here. You can call my assessment of your regurgitated talking points lame all day, but it doesn't make my assessment any less true. I know it's really cool to see the faux passionate theatrics on Fox News and the like, but when you try to come off the same way in a debate forum, you end up looking ridiculous. It would be easier to believe that you were actually a Liberal if you didn't rely on the exact type of talking points displayed on the very conservative political commentary shows on Fox News. Saying "I used to be a Lib, so I'm qualified to talk about it!" is really not that far from a racist asshole saying that he's not racist simply because he has a black friend. I sincerely hope that at least deep down you realize how ridiculous you sound. I realize that is hoping for a lot.
 
That's quite a world you live in.

Me? I didn't claim to know what the Queen thought. I just gave you the truth of the matter, and you somehow decided that the Queen didn't have a problem with it.
 
The Left promotes a putrid and disgusting system based on division and envy. It's why they can't sell it straight to the people.

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Right.

Had Barrack Obama told the truth about his political philosophies and his intentions once he gained the presidency, it is unlikely he would never have been elected.
 
Seriously. Wow. Apparently, you can't find anything true and concrete to stick on the President, so you went with vulgar.

Yes. That's what happened. Like I don't spend much of my time defending Obama. Look, if you want to be upset about the "negger" in Schwarzenegger's name, complain to god.


Total Recall, Terminator, Spaceballs, Iberia... it's all there, in afro and white.
 
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