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    Exclusive: Private letter from CIA chief undercuts claim torture was key to killing B

    Exclusive: Private letter from CIA chief undercuts claim torture was key to killing Bin Laden - The Plum Line - The Washington Post

    Some of the detainees who provided useful information about the facilitator/courier’s role had been subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques. Whether those techniques were the “only timely and effective way” to obtain such information is a matter of debate and cannot be established definitively. What is definitive is that that information was only a part of multiple streams of intelligence that led us to Bin Ladin.

    Let me further point out that we first learned about the facilitator/courier’s nom de guerre from a detainee not in CIA custody in 2002. It is also important to note that some detainees who were subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques attempted to provide false or misleading information about the facilitator/courier. These attempts to falsify the facilitator/courier’s role were alerting.

    In the end, no detainee in CIA custody revealed the facilitator/courier’s full true name or specific whereabouts. This information was discovered through other intelligence means.
    (emphasis mine)

    I am very happy to hear that torture is not justified in this manner.
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    Re: Exclusive: Private letter from CIA chief undercuts claim torture was key to killi

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Anything to keep your political ideology alive.
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    Re: Exclusive: Private letter from CIA chief undercuts claim torture was key to killi

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Anything to keep your political ideology alive.
    Yep, a letter from the CIA director is "anything"

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    Re: Exclusive: Private letter from CIA chief undercuts claim torture was key to killi

    It is imperative that we somehow justify tor.. I mean "enhanced interrogation", it just has to be done! Oh, oh, here it is! We tor.. I mean subjected prisoners to enhanced interrogation, we finally got Bin Laden, therefore, it was the tor.. no no, enhanced interrogation that led to Bin Laden... what? ended when? Why, then, didn't they get Bin Laden years ago? But, but, if it didn't lead to Bin Laden, how can we ever justify tor... I mean enhanced interrogation?
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    Re: Exclusive: Private letter from CIA chief undercuts claim torture was key to killi

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Yep, a letter from the CIA director is "anything"
    This letter is pure politics, it's the Administration trying to deflect any credit from the Bush administration. It's just crass red meat for the true believers. Oh look... I'll leave the thread so you guys can feed.
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    Re: Exclusive: Private letter from CIA chief undercuts claim torture was key to killi

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    This letter is pure politics, it's the Administration trying to deflect any credit from the Bush administration. It's just crass red meat for the true believers. Oh look... I'll leave the thread so you guys can feed.
    So you have resorted to making up a scenario?

    Anything to keep your ideology alive.

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    Re: Exclusive: Private letter from CIA chief undercuts claim torture was key to killi

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    So you have resorted to making up a scenario?

    Anything to keep your ideology alive.
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    Re: Exclusive: Private letter from CIA chief undercuts claim torture was key to killi

    Yea... Ive come to the conclusion that the "questionable interagtion techniques" (torture) did not lead us to Bin Laden..


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    Re: Exclusive: Private letter from CIA chief undercuts claim torture was key to killi

    While this won't end the debate on what waterboarding did and didn't do, it is nice to see that it looks like it played less of a role than what was previously thought.

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