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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Never heard of slate.com....but I checked it out. Not really my style...but thanks for the heads up anyway. As far as the rest of your post....if this were simply an anomaly in the GOP actions, I could understand how one might not view it as hypocritical. However....the GOP is notorious at the "Do as I say...not as I do politics".....

    Some things never change.
    This most certainy IS an anomaly. After TWENTY-FOUR some-odd months, the GOP filibusters one EXTREMIST nominee after the filibustering of DOZENS of Bush nominees... umm... sorry, your argument holds NO water at all...
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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the massive deficits and a massive number of citizens addicted to entitlements are certainly caused by the attitude and policies of the party Haymarket works for
    The massive deficits go back to your Party and your President. The cut in revenues - those 47% who do not pay income tax that you are always wailing about - that also comes from a Republican President - Bush - and it was his intention to take them off the tax rolls.

    You really do not know your American history very well. In just a few short days you have placed the start of the estate tax in the Gilded Age when it actually started here a century before. You alleged that before the income tax people only paid for the government services they would use and then could not find one source of evidence or information to substantiate it. And now you entire 'this was caused by the democrats is proven to be a gross falsehood which ignores the role of both Bushes in both spending and in cutting taxes on those who you complain about the most.

    It seems when you point the finger of blame at the Democrats, three of your own fingers are pointing right back at your own Republican Party.

    You Republicans need to read your Shakespeare for the fault lies within yourselves.
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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    No, actually it's not.

    Hypocrisy would be if they used the Filibuster ya know.. before, and often.


    See what you are doing is just the DNC talking point, that the GOP isn't ALLOWED to use a parliamentary move that sunk and unqualified, political hacks hopes of being a judge. Because they dared to complain about the COPIOUS ABUSE of the system by the dems.

    The only thing funny here is watching you try and stand fo ran indefensible standard. The DNC can Filibuster at will, the GOP has to play nice. No.
    I agree and disagree. As long as the parlimentary move is allowed...the GOP should be allowed to use it.....just don't pretend by be all "high and mighty" and above it....else the hypocrisy label applies.....as the song goes "This here's just a little Peyton Place and you're all Harper Valley Hypocrites".
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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And this tib bit:

    Berkeley's Judge Goodwin Liu - WSJ.com

    The guy was a political hack, and no business even being thought of for the bench.
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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The massive deficits go back to your Party and your President. The cut in revenues - those 47% who do not pay income tax that you are always wailing about - that also comes from a Republican President - Bush - and it was his intention to take them off the tax rolls.

    You really do not know your American history very well. In just a few short days you have placed the start of the estate tax in the Gilded Age when it actually started here a century before. You alleged that before the income tax people only paid for the government services they would use and then could not find one source of evidence or information to substantiate it. And now you entire 'this was caused by the democrats is proven to be a gross falsehood which ignores the role of both Bushes in both spending and in cutting taxes on those who you complain about the most.

    It seems when you point the finger of blame at the Democrats, three of your own fingers are pointing right back at your own Republican Party.

    You Republicans need to read your Shakespeare for the fault lies within yourselves.
    As per the Constitution of the United States of America, all spending bills begin in the House of Representatives.

    shall we compare deficit spending based on ownership of the body of government that actually was responsible for it?


    now, I'm not gonna give W a free ride - the first stimulus was an utter failure (as stimulus packages based on increased government payouts tend to be), TARP was problematic and beginning the Auto Bailouts was an unmitigated disaster. But if you wan to talk budgets, we need to talk about the House.

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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Ehh, that's what the out-party says about EVERY judicial nominee they don't like and want to filibuster. I'm not a big fan of filibusters in general...judicial or otherwise. The purpose of a filibuster was supposed to be to allow all senators to present their viewpoint, rather than to obstruct the business of the Senate. Our government would function a lot better if filibusters were removed entirely and/or if there was a certain time limit attached to them.
    I agree (for both parties), forcing a super majority on every decision has become a real road block to addressing the country's many problems. It is certainly not representative of we the people where there is rarely agreement on anything that would present a super majority opinion.
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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I agree (for both parties), forcing a super majority on every decision has become a real road block to addressing the country's many problems. It is certainly not representative of we the people where there is rarely agreement on anything that would present a super majority opinion.
    I wouldn't object to removing the filibuster on regular business, but in the case of judicial nominees, I wouldn't object to a change that would require a 3/5 super-majority to approve judicial appointments. Just too important to leave to a simple majority...
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