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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    I'm not sure exactly how the parliamentary rules of the Senate work, so I'm not sure if this would be feasible. But maybe both parties could agree to phase out the filibuster at some point in the distant future. For example, maybe they could agree that at the start of the congressional session in 2017, it would be eliminated. That's far enough into the future that neither party would have any idea who would initially benefit from it, and could therefore vote to eliminate the filibuster. It would eliminate a destructive force on our legislative body, without anyone needing to vote to maintain the filibuster to protect their short-term political interests.
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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    He wasn't qualified at all, have your read the mans stance on how judges should behave?

    Seriously Liblady, this guy was a nutjob, through and through.

    when the dems blocked Estrada-who was recommended by all four living former dem solicitor generals mainly because the dems didn't want Bush to gain Latino Support by grooming a brilliant Hispanic for the supreme court, its time for some serious payback



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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    So much for the "up or down" vote rhetoric of the GOP. Proving themselves the hypocrites that they are.

    Estrada was blocked on racist grounds

    Peter Keisler was blocked as well

    those two clerked for AJ Kennedy and are considered among the brightest legal minds in the country. Keisler won widespread acclaim for being the AAG Civil division under Bush and then the acting AG after Gonzo left.

    His integrity is beyond reproach and is a brilliant lawyer. Estrada came to the US hardly speaking any English at 17 and graduated at the top of his class (compare that to Obama) at Columbia and then was a magna at Harvard Law.



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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Estrada was blocked on racist grounds

    Peter Keisler was blocked as well

    those two clerked for AJ Kennedy and are considered among the brightest legal minds in the country. Keisler won widespread acclaim for being the AAG Civil division under Bush and then the acting AG after Gonzo left.

    His integrity is beyond reproach and is a brilliant lawyer. Estrada came to the US hardly speaking any English at 17 and graduated at the top of his class (compare that to Obama) at Columbia and then was a magna at Harvard Law.
    and........

    The point is.....Republicans cried loud and hard for "an up and down vote".....but when the tables are turned...they prove they are nothing but a bunch of empty rhetoric hypocrites.
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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Anyone familiar with what is considered the standard by the American Bar Association for a Federal Judge?

    Im talking experience either as a trial lawyer or on the bench? Has he been practicing law in the field long enough to make qualified judgements and motion rulings?

    Does Liu meet that expectaction? Regardless of his political outlook on the bench or his academic qualifications.

    Ill give you a hint...he hasnt been out of law school long enough to meet that standard and he hasnt been a trial lawyer---at all.

    What makes him qualified again?

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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    and........

    The point is.....Republicans cried loud and hard for "an up and down vote".....but when the tables are turned...they prove they are nothing but a bunch of empty rhetoric hypocrites.
    SPARE us the talking points would you DD? Seriously.

    35 TIMES the Dem's Filibustered Bush Nominee's between 2001-2005. 35 TIMES. The GOP, 2.5 YEARS into Obama's term, and they pulled the trigger on one radical nominee. Come back when you're ready to discuss the situation on some rationale basis.
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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    SPARE us the talking points would you DD? Seriously.

    35 TIMES the Dem's Filibustered Bush Nominee's between 2001-2005. 35 TIMES. The GOP, 2.5 YEARS into Obama's term, and they pulled the trigger on one radical nominee. Come back when you're ready to discuss the situation on some rationale basis.
    Did I say that I disagree? But the Dems weren't the ones saying "UP or Down"...."UP or Down"..... the GOP once again shows that they truly are the party of hypocracy.
    They love to talk the game...but almost never live it (e.g...."Family values")
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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Did I say that I disagree? But the Dems weren't the ones saying "UP or Down"...."UP or Down"..... the GOP once again shows that they truly are the party of hypocracy.
    They love to talk the game...but almost never live it (e.g...."Family values")
    Okay, let's get serious here. I'm going to take this moment to thoroughly trash you.

    The GOP sat and watched as 35 nomniee's were denied even an up and down vote. At first they were frustrated, then they were angered, and finally it was exasperation as the Democrat Party decided that the Senate now required 60 votes to get even a single Judge through.

    35 TIMES. Are you going to tell everyone here, on this board and the world that President Bush nominated 35 people for the courts that rose to the level of being being so unacceptable and unqualified that they deserved to be filibustered?

    So now, 2.5 years and many nominee's later... the GOP finally pulls the trigger on a single nominee and you have the audacity to cry "Hypocrisy"? I'd say that shows which party is responsible, and understand their role, the role of the Senate in this process and chose to make a stand only when it was a last resort.

    Not the first reaction to any nominee.

    The GOP didn't play tit for tat.

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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Okay, let's get serious here. I'm going to take this moment to thoroughly trash you.

    The GOP sat and watched as 35 nomniee's were denied even an up and down vote. At first they were frustrated, then they were angered, and finally it was exasperation as the Democrat Party decided that the Senate now required 60 votes to get even a single Judge through.

    35 TIMES. Are you going to tell everyone here, on this board and the world that President Bush nominated 35 people for the courts that rose to the level of being being so unacceptable and unqualified that they deserved to be filibustered?

    So now, 2.5 years and many nominee's later... the GOP finally pulls the trigger on a single nominee and you have the audacity to cry "Hypocrisy"? I'd say that shows which party is responsible, and understand their role, the role of the Senate in this process and chose to make a stand only when it was a last resort.

    Not the first reaction to any nominee.

    The GOP didn't play tit for tat.

    Democratic Underground That's a place you should try your line out at it, it might carry water there.

    Sorry Vich....but your post failed to address the hypocracy that the GOP represents.
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    Re: Senate GOP Marks a First - Blocking an Obama Judicial Nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry Vich....but your post failed to address the hypocracy that the GOP represents.
    Translation: I have nothing to counter this with but more blind hyper-partisanship. My party can filibuster nominee's to the end of time, but if the GOP Dare do it to a single one, over half way through a Dem President's term I shall cry and whine and call the GOP names because I'm just not serious about politics or debate. Just parroting DNC talking points like a good boy.


    Carry on DD, I gave you a chance to discuss the issue with some semblance of credibility, but as usual, you have nothing but empty hyper-partisan empty hand wringing and predictable rhetoric.
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