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    Re: Mitch Daniels Not Only Took ObamaCare Funds, He Pushed Similar Reforms

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    Guess you missed the November 2010 election results and the 26 states that are now suing Obama. Not surprising but tell me where did you learn that it was someone else's responsibility to pay for your healthcare? Are they to monitor your lifestyle as well including what you eat and drink? Where does the nanny state end in your world?
    I guess you missed the '08 election. Apparently, you're under the delusion that the '10 elections were about health care reform. They weren't. They were about the economy and jobs. Since when does wanting my nation to ensure its citizens have access to adequate, affordable health care mean that I want the gov't to take care of me? Your posts are just more asinine far-right hyperbole. What are you doing here anyway? Shouldn't you be downtown kicking homeless people while professing your compassionate conservative credentials?
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    Re: Mitch Daniels Not Only Took ObamaCare Funds, He Pushed Similar Reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    I guess you missed the '08 election. Apparently, you're under the delusion that the '10 elections were about health care reform. They weren't. They were about the economy and jobs. Since when does wanting my nation to ensure its citizens have access to adequate, affordable health care mean that I want the gov't to take care of me? Your posts are just more asinine far-right hyperbole. What are you doing here anyway? Shouldn't you be downtown kicking homeless people while professing your compassionate conservative credentials?

    Lol?

    2010 was in reaction to the over reaching of the Dem's in the House and Senate. Healthcare "reform" was a primary driver. You really are steeped in the Koolaide aren't you?
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Mitch Daniels Not Only Took ObamaCare Funds, He Pushed Similar Reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    I guess you missed the '08 election. Apparently, you're under the delusion that the '10 elections were about health care reform. They weren't. They were about the economy and jobs. Since when does wanting my nation to ensure its citizens have access to adequate, affordable health care mean that I want the gov't to take care of me? Your posts are just more asinine far-right hyperbole. What are you doing here anyway? shouldn't you downtown kicking homeless people while professing your compassionate conservative credentials?
    The '10 election results confirmed the states action againt against Obamacare since the elections were after the suits were filed. The '08 elections were a mandate on Bush and we now know that the obama record is worse thus the '10 elections.

    I asked you a question which you ran from, where did you learn it was someone else's responsibility to pay for your healthcare? You cannot sell your state on a healthcare program so you want to force a healthcare program on everyone from the bloated federal bureacracy that currently has created a 14.4 trillion dollar debt all because you buy the rhetoric and ignore results.

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    Re: Mitch Daniels Not Only Took ObamaCare Funds, He Pushed Similar Reforms

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    Lol?

    2010 was in reaction to the over reaching of the Dem's in the House and Senate. Healthcare "reform" was a primary driver. You really are steeped in the Koolaide aren't you?
    Posts like yours are proof that if you repeat a lie often enough, gullible people will start to believe it. You really are delusional aren't you? Show me where the '10 elections were about health care reform. They were about jobs and the economy.


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    Re: Mitch Daniels Not Only Took ObamaCare Funds, He Pushed Similar Reforms

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    The '10 election results confirmed the states action againt against Obamacare since the elections were after the suits were filed. The '08 elections were a mandate on Bush and we now know that the obama record is worse thus the '10 elections.

    I asked you a question which you ran from, where did you learn it was someone else's responsibility to pay for your healthcare? You cannot sell your state on a healthcare program so you want to force a healthcare program on everyone from the bloated federal bureacracy that currently has created a 14.4 trillion dollar debt all because you buy the rhetoric and ignore results.
    How am I running from your question? I did have an answer for your general position, of which that specific question was a part of. I didn't directly answer that specific question because it was asinine.


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    Re: Mitch Daniels Not Only Took ObamaCare Funds, He Pushed Similar Reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    How am I running from your question? I did have an answer for your general position, of which that specific question was a part of. I didn't directly answer that specific question because it was asinine.
    Asinine? You think it is asinine that we live in a country where personal responsibility issues are expected to be paid for by someone else? How typical of you so tell me what are you doing for your local charities to help people in need? Are you sending in more of your income to the Federal govt. so they can provide that bureaucratic "help" for issues that you support? Doubt that you are putting your money where your mouth is because like all liberals all you want to do is force your ideology on everyon else. The 2010 elections proved you out of touch with reality as are today's polls on Obamacare, Rasmussen 57% support repeal.

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    Re: Mitch Daniels Not Only Took ObamaCare Funds, He Pushed Similar Reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    If they're supporting a state-managed health care program but opposing a nationally-managed health care program then it would fall in line with the conservative's .
    Conservative doesn't have a "state's rights" argument because he believes health care insurance should be sold across state lines - mandated at the federal level, it would clearly usurp the state's right to determine who sells health insurance in their state.


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    Re: Mitch Daniels Not Only Took ObamaCare Funds, He Pushed Similar Reforms

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    Asinine? You think it is asinine that we live in a country where personal responsibility issues are expected to be paid for by someone else? .

    So now you are against insurance all together?

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    Re: Mitch Daniels Not Only Took ObamaCare Funds, He Pushed Similar Reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Conservative doesn't have a "state's rights" argument because he believes health care insurance should be sold across state lines - mandated at the federal level, it would clearly usurp the state's right to determine who sells health insurance in their state.
    You have a problem with states controlling what is going on in their state but not the Federal Govt. telling you what you must do in your state? You really are for a massive central govt. where power is controlled in D.C. and then they help solve problems in your state? Your faith in Federal Bureaucrats is quite telling as evidenced by the current 14.4 trillion dollar debt which was created by those bureaucrats. You see, you cannot sell your state on what you want so like all liberals you either want the court or the Federal Govt. to overrule the people of your state.

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    Re: Mitch Daniels Not Only Took ObamaCare Funds, He Pushed Similar Reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You have a problem with states controlling what is going on in their state but not the Federal Govt. telling you what you must do in your state? You really are for a massive central govt. where power is controlled in D.C. and then they help solve problems in your state? Your faith in Federal Bureaucrats is quite telling as evidenced by the current 14.4 trillion dollar debt which was created by those bureaucrats. You see, you cannot sell your state on what you want so like all liberals you either want the court or the Federal Govt. to overrule the people of your state.

    You said last night you were pro selling health insurance across State lines. So that means the laws of S Dakota could be controlling your health insurance.

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