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    Re: Senate Attempt To Eliminate Big Oil Subsidies Defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Why then is not called a tax break? I say stop the subsidies and fix the problems in the tax laws. This to me seems that there is a lot of lying and BS going on. I still don't understan a company making Billions complaining about a few million. That to me shows greed. If they lose subsidies they lose what may be 5% of their profit if that.

    OMG-you base reality on what some scumbag politician calls something?

    do you believe in a free market?

    do you believe that a company should be double taxed-



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    Re: Senate Attempt To Eliminate Big Oil Subsidies Defeated

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    how is your post relevant to the subject?
    Pointing out that you make a post in a thread and in doing so fail utterly to back up your pontifications is always relevant to the subject when you make the original post than commits the sin against the basic concept of debate.
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    Re: Senate Attempt To Eliminate Big Oil Subsidies Defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    this is getting really stupid. dem senators are pandering to the ignorant who think its the oil companies who are responsible for high oil prices alone and these scumbag dem senators are acting as if these high prices can be cured by increasing costs on these companies

    sadly lots of people who claim to be conservatives buy into this populist psychobabble because they are mad that they have to pay higher prices

    you really don't like the free market do you? and you are going to love the government driving up the cost of gas even more because a bunch of dishonest asswipes in the senate are pandering to people like you
    I do love the free market that is why I say stop all tax money give aways. The price does not matter to me I buy ethanol free. Yesterday it cost $4.55 a gallon I spent $100 to fill my pick up.

    Also know the obscene profits drive up the price of everything you buy because of transportation costs.

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    Re: Senate Attempt To Eliminate Big Oil Subsidies Defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    OMG-you base reality on what some scumbag politician calls something?

    do you believe in a free market?

    do you believe that a company should be double taxed-
    So let oil lobbyist get tax laws changed. I don't want millions in tax loopholes.

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    Re: Senate Attempt To Eliminate Big Oil Subsidies Defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Pointing out that you make a post in a thread and in doing so fail utterly to back up your pontifications is always relevant to the subject when you make the original post than commits the sin against the basic concept of debate.
    why not discuss the topic rather than obsess over me?



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    Re: Senate Attempt To Eliminate Big Oil Subsidies Defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Why then is not called a tax break? I say stop the subsidies and fix the problems in the tax laws. This to me seems that there is a lot of lying and BS going on. I still don't understan a company making Billions complaining about a few million. That to me shows greed. If they lose subsidies they lose what may be 5% of their profit if that.
    because the liberal media wants you to be angry and make you think these are subsidies they are talking about and not tax breaks... read the article I linked...

    It is not subsidies they are going to lose, but the protection from taxation on foreign profits which ALL industries and individuals enjoy...

    I do agree that the tax code is broken and is in need of overhaul, but it is piecemeal legislation like this that is the cause of the complicated mess the tax code is in the first place...
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    Re: Senate Attempt To Eliminate Big Oil Subsidies Defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Pointing out that you make a post in a thread and in doing so fail utterly to back up your pontifications is always relevant to the subject when you make the original post than commits the sin against the basic concept of debate.
    The link I posted backed up OUR assertion that it is double taxation that is being discussed here, NOT subsidies...
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    Re: Senate Attempt To Eliminate Big Oil Subsidies Defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I do love the free market that is why I say stop all tax money give aways. The price does not matter to me I buy ethanol free. Yesterday it cost $4.55 a gallon I spent $100 to fill my pick up.

    Also know the obscene profits drive up the price of everything you buy because of transportation costs.
    What "tax money give away" is there in not taxing income earned OVERSEAS???
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    Re: Senate Attempt To Eliminate Big Oil Subsidies Defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    because the liberal media wants you to be angry and make you think these are subsidies they are talking about and not tax breaks... read the article I linked...

    It is not subsidies they are going to lose, but the protection from taxation on foreign profits which ALL industries and individuals enjoy...

    I do agree that the tax code is broken and is in need of overhaul, but it is piecemeal legislation like this that is the cause of the complicated mess the tax code is in the first place...
    I showed a link. 69% profit increase. 10 billion in profit first quarter. They are bitching about a few million in tax loopholes? I find that pure greed. Again they have lobbyist get the laws changed so we don't need subsidies, subsidy is just another word for tax loophole.

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    Re: Senate Attempt To Eliminate Big Oil Subsidies Defeated

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    What "tax money give away" is there in not taxing income earned OVERSEAS???
    It is a subsidy that is a tax loop hole so change the law or pay the tax.I don't see a subsidy for the death tax

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