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    Re: Immigration University Insiders: Illegal Immigrants Get Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    If they're paying the tuition and not receiving government-funded grants or scholarships then I really don't care.
    If they are here illegally they should be in court not school

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    Re: Immigration University Insiders: Illegal Immigrants Get Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I come from Maryland, and I feel sad that my home state would do something like this. For every legal illegal student that goes to college there is one less seat for a legal student to be accepted and attend college. So these undocumented non-citizens will receive in state tuition benefits? I've lived away from Maryland for some time, but I was born there. The fact that I haven't been a resident for a while would prevent me from getting in state tuition discounts.

    So, an illegal with no documentation can get in-state tuition, but a legal US citizen who is a Maryland native cannot... This is messed up.
    The problem is that many of those so-called "legal students" don't want to go for whatever reason. Rest assured that there are more than enough seats for legal AND undocumented students. In addition, US citizens have the option of moving to a state and getting in-state tuition after a period of time, like I did. Undocumented students do not have this option. As a result, many of them might have chosen a university out of country to attend, or opted not to go at all. This way, they get to attend college, and pay tuition. Win/win.

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    Re: Immigration University Insiders: Illegal Immigrants Get Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    The problem is that many of those so-called "legal students" don't want to go for whatever reason. Rest assured that there are more than enough seats for legal AND undocumented students. In addition, US citizens have the option of moving to a state and getting in-state tuition after a period of time, like I did. Undocumented students do not have this option. As a result, many of them might have chosen a university out of country to attend, or opted not to go at all. This way, they get to attend college, and pay tuition. Win/win.
    It differs by state. In TN you cannot get any in-state discounts unless you have been a documented resident for two years prior to attending school.

    Undocumented student's should have any options. They are here illegally and should be prosecuted, not educated. They shouldn't have the freedom of choosing a US university. I know some international students that attend my university and they have to apply for student visas to stay in America legally and study in one of our schools. Allowing illegals in-state benefits and not requiring a visa of someone who is already breaking immigration law is a slap to the face for our legal international students who applied and paid fees to obtain a student visa. It's not right.
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    Re: Immigration University Insiders: Illegal Immigrants Get Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    This week, Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley signed a bill to require the state's public universities to give undocumented aliens -- generally illegal -- in-state tuition privileges.

    The bill, known as the Dream Act, is already the law in ten other states, including California, New York, Texas and Illinois.

    The only thing to say about this, is it just nuts and every american citizen should be pissed off about it.


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    Re: Immigration University Insiders: Illegal Immigrants Get Affirmative Action

    I am opposed to illegal immigration and I feel like the adults who come here illegally should be documented, have their fingerprints and DNA recorded, and sent back home. I do not, however, feel as though the child who was brought with that adult can be punished for the actions of their parent. If I take my child with me when I rob a gas station are we going to through my child in jail with me?
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    Re: Immigration University Insiders: Illegal Immigrants Get Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    You cant vote Democrat and still claim to be American in this country........

    .....its one Anti-American/Pro-Infestation bill after another.
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    Re: Immigration University Insiders: Illegal Immigrants Get Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It differs by state. In TN you cannot get any in-state discounts unless you have been a documented resident for two years prior to attending school.
    North Carolina was the same way. I simply moved there and two years later paid the in-state price.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Undocumented student's should have any options. They are here illegally and should be prosecuted, not educated. They shouldn't have the freedom of choosing a US university. I know some international students that attend my university and they have to apply for student visas to stay in America legally and study in one of our schools. Allowing illegals in-state benefits and not requiring a visa of someone who is already breaking immigration law is a slap to the face for our legal international students who applied and paid fees to obtain a student visa. It's not right.
    Actually, what's not right is denying them the opportunity to go to college just because some folks are bent out of shape about their immigration status. Undocumented students should be allowed to pay for and attend university. If you don't want them to go, then maybe you should focus on encouraging US citizens to attend to take up the remaining classroom spaces, because far too few of them do in our country. As a result, there are plenty of empty seats to fill, and one way to do that is by offering undocumented students the opportunity to attend. This way, Maryland's university system makes money, and kids get to go to college. That's a win/win situation.

    What this all boils down to is an immigration issue, and trust me, where I live, people hearing legislation with the word 'immigrant' in it are going to assume they are being targetted and vote it down. Or vote in someone who will. If folks are really upset at undocumented students filling up those empty classroom seats, then the solution is to either offer them citizenship, or encourage our own citizens to fill them up.

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    Re: Immigration University Insiders: Illegal Immigrants Get Affirmative Action

    On a personal level, I really couldn't care less.

    As a Marylander my whole life and a student at the biggest state university, I say good job to the folks in Annapolis. This is a good piece of legislation.
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    Re: Immigration University Insiders: Illegal Immigrants Get Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    On a personal level, I really couldn't care less.

    As a Marylander my whole life and a student at the biggest state university, I say good job to the folks in Annapolis. This is a good piece of legislation.

    Not if law breakers are allowed to go to school.

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    Re: Immigration University Insiders: Illegal Immigrants Get Affirmative Action

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Not if law breakers are allowed to go to school.
    Tell you what, if you want to hate on illegals just stay in Florida. My state is responsible for its own actions.
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