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    Re: Nearly 20 percent of new Obamacare waivers are..... fancy hotels in Nancy Pelosi’

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Yeah, I did about 5 minutes of research into the story... You might want to try it.
    right... and came up with the bogus conclusion that some group called the GGRA is at fault.

    Perhaps if you spent more than 5 minutes looking into something, you'd find a correct answer for once.

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    Re: Nearly 20 percent of new Obamacare waivers are..... fancy hotels in Nancy Pelosi’

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    right... and came up with the bogus conclusion that some group called the GGRA is at fault.

    Perhaps if you spent more than 5 minutes looking into something, you'd find a correct answer for once.
    Let's see, none of the GOP spin articles actually show any direct link to Nancy Pelosi...

    That was my first clue.

    Then I used this think called 'Google' to get more facts on the story and the area.

    You might want to try it before believing every political attack smear job.

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    Re: Nearly 20 percent of new Obamacare waivers are..... fancy hotels in Nancy Pelosi’

    on it's face.. on it's ass, pretty much any way you look at it, it looks bad.

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    Re: Nearly 20 percent of new Obamacare waivers are..... fancy hotels in Nancy Pelosi’

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, the Daily Caller made it look bad by misreprsenting the facts. Here now is actually why more waivers went to the San Francisco area:

    "WASHINGTON -- House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) played no role in the process by which health care waivers were granted to a number of businesses in her district, according to the company that actually requested the waivers on behalf of its clients.

    Flex-Plan Services, a third-party benefits administrator based in Bellevue, Wash., made the formal applications for waivers from President Barack Obama's health care law, said it founder, Hilarie Aitken.

    "I don’t tend to vote Democratic, but I feel bad for Nancy Pelosi," Aitken told HuffPost. "She’s really being thrown under the bus here. It has nothing to do with her at all. This was just a political power play. The way that they are shaping this -- that the minority leader, Nancy Pelosi, [is behind] all these waivers being granted, and how could she do this -- it’s all slanted and wrong".

    The admission deals a blow to the implication made Tuesday morning by the Daily Caller: It claimed Democratic lawmakers were effectively exempting businesses in their districts from the more onerous requirements of the presidential health care law. This was based on the fact that, of the 204 waiver requests that were approved in April, 38 were for restaurants, nightclubs or hotels in Pelosi's district.

    “It looks like ObamaCare’s backroom sweetheart deals didn’t end when it became law,” said Michael Steel, the spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), in a second Daily Caller story.

    In actuality, Aitken explained, the high percentage of waivers is the byproduct of local law rubbing against the new national legislation. In April 2008, San Francisco passed an ordinance requiring employers to spend a minimum amount per hour on health care for their employees who work in the city. In response, a number of eateries chose to set up Health Reimbursement Arrangements, which are essentially pools of funds set aside by employers to reimburse medical expenses paid by employees.

    HRAs are serviced by a third-party administrator or plan service provider. They are also subject to the annual limit provision in the national health care law, which is set at $750,000 in 2011 before it is eliminated fully in 2014."
    Nancy Pelosi Is Being 'Thrown Under The Bus,' Says Company That Requested Health Care Waivers
    So, IOW, Obamacare is just another Democrat bill that ****s over small businesses.

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    Re: Nearly 20 percent of new Obamacare waivers are..... fancy hotels in Nancy Pelosi’

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, the Daily Caller made it look bad by misreprsenting the facts. Here now is actually why more waivers went to the San Francisco area:

    "WASHINGTON -- House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) played no role in the process by which health care waivers were granted to a number of businesses in her district, according to the company that actually requested the waivers on behalf of its clients.

    Flex-Plan Services, a third-party benefits administrator based in Bellevue, Wash., made the formal applications for waivers from President Barack Obama's health care law, said it founder, Hilarie Aitken.

    "I don’t tend to vote Democratic, but I feel bad for Nancy Pelosi," Aitken told HuffPost. "She’s really being thrown under the bus here. It has nothing to do with her at all. This was just a political power play. The way that they are shaping this -- that the minority leader, Nancy Pelosi, [is behind] all these waivers being granted, and how could she do this -- it’s all slanted and wrong".

    The admission deals a blow to the implication made Tuesday morning by the Daily Caller: It claimed Democratic lawmakers were effectively exempting businesses in their districts from the more onerous requirements of the presidential health care law. This was based on the fact that, of the 204 waiver requests that were approved in April, 38 were for restaurants, nightclubs or hotels in Pelosi's district.

    “It looks like ObamaCare’s backroom sweetheart deals didn’t end when it became law,” said Michael Steel, the spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), in a second Daily Caller story.

    In actuality, Aitken explained, the high percentage of waivers is the byproduct of local law rubbing against the new national legislation. In April 2008, San Francisco passed an ordinance requiring employers to spend a minimum amount per hour on health care for their employees who work in the city. In response, a number of eateries chose to set up Health Reimbursement Arrangements, which are essentially pools of funds set aside by employers to reimburse medical expenses paid by employees.

    HRAs are serviced by a third-party administrator or plan service provider. They are also subject to the annual limit provision in the national health care law, which is set at $750,000 in 2011 before it is eliminated fully in 2014."
    Nancy Pelosi Is Being 'Thrown Under The Bus,' Says Company That Requested Health Care Waivers
    Who cares, no waivers for a single liberal esablishment in San Francisco. They voted in the clowns that supported this plan, let them live with it now.
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    Re: Nearly 20 percent of new Obamacare waivers are..... fancy hotels in Nancy Pelosi’

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Wow... One would think that this would be the last place that would want waivers from this glorious Obamacare.
    THIS is what happens when the Constitution is violated and the government is allowed to take authority in matters it was formerly forbidden to interfere in.

    The answer is less government power, people.

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    Re: Nearly 20 percent of new Obamacare waivers are..... fancy hotels in Nancy Pelosi’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    THIS is what happens when the Constitution is violated and the government is allowed to take authority in matters it was formerly forbidden to interfere in.

    The answer is less government power, people.
    *sarcasm*
    You know that no government has ever done anything bad in the history of governments... that's a conspiracy theory to suggest otherwise.

    /sarcasm

    What part of the constitution talks about how laws don't need to be applied equally to all again?

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    Re: Nearly 20 percent of new Obamacare waivers are..... fancy hotels in Nancy Pelosi’

    Quote Originally Posted by mlop09 View Post
    on it's face.. on it's ass, pretty much any way you look at it, it looks bad.
    AARP apparently got one of these "get out of Obamacare" tickets as well. For such a monumentous achievement, there sure if a lot of government and business getting a pass.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Nearly 20 percent of new Obamacare waivers are..... fancy hotels in Nancy Pelosi’

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    AARP apparently got one of these "get out of Obamacare" tickets as well. For such a monumentous achievement, there sure if a lot of government and business getting a pass.
    So that's how they got AARP support, not on the merits of the legislation. I'm shocked!!
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    Re: Nearly 20 percent of new Obamacare waivers are..... fancy hotels in Nancy Pelosi’

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post

    Well, I re-read the thread, and guess what?

    the ONLY mention of the GGRA is in Hazlnut's post. That's it. So, where else in the thread did YOU see they were responsible, like Hazlnut thinks?
    Jeesh, it was the 8th post in the thread, you need somebody to hold your hand and walk you back there? OK, look here.
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