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Krauthammer on Gingrich's Presidential Aspirations: "Now it's Over"

That's assuming that Republican primary votes feel like unseating Obama is unlikely. Regardless of whether it is, I'm almost positive they don't. Anyways, Intrade now gives Obama something like a 60% chance of winning re-election, meaning a pretty substantial 40% chance that he won't.

I really doubt Romney will get anywhere. He won't survive the smearing that's to come, when all of his flip-flopping and liberal-policy-supporting will be exposed.

To me the thing here is that smearing is not going to be aimed solely at him, and there really is no one else with an honest chance to beat Obama who is going to be much more suitable to republicans.
 
Not really. Social engineering is actively influencing society, using the government. Shrinking the government isn't so much laying out a plan for society as it is assuming that society can take care of itself. It's kind of a stretch to call that social engineering.

So if people where used to 40 Pokemon, and the government says they need to get by with only 20, that is not the government influencing society?

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So if people where used to 40 Pokemon, and the government says they need to get by with only 20, that is not the government influencing society?

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No, the governement handing out Pokemon to begin with would be. It's "Gotta Catch Em All" not "Gotta Wait at the Welfare Line for Em All".
 
To me the thing here is that smearing is not going to be aimed solely at him, and there really is no one else with an honest chance to beat Obama who is going to be much more suitable to republicans.

You don't think Daniels can beat Obama?
 
But Gingrich called it right when he said that the Ryan plan was an attempt at "social engineering". For that, he will most likely be called a radical hippie commie Liberal now.

Article is here.

I will take the Ryan plan over Obamacare any day. I agree with Krauthammer that Gingrich never had much of a chance and now say good Bye Newt
 
Interesting. Why is that?
 
This was back when this idea was considered a free-market and pro-capitalist way to reform healthcare and cap-and-trade was considered a free market way to eliminate sulfur in the atmosphere.

Now, those same ideas that were once proposed and supported by conservatives are considered to be radical Commie ideas. Because Obama thought they were good ideas. Therefore, they are Commie ideas, and NOT free-market, capitalist ideas.

To me it looks like the same hypocritical bs.Kind of like how republicans bash communist and socialist and turn around and support outsourcing to a communist country and supported the bailouts.
 
But Gingrich called it right when he said that the Ryan plan was an attempt at "social engineering". For that, he will most likely be called a radical hippie commie Liberal now.

Article is here.


Goes to show just how far to the right the GOP have come to consider the Newt a radical liberal!
 
Goes to show just how far to the right the GOP have come to consider the Newt a radical liberal!

Newt has committed the most grievous of any sins that a True Believer can commit - he dared not to march with them on the 1,000th day after leading them for the first 999. This places him in the category of a heretic and he must be symbolically burned at the stake for his apostasy.
 
It looks like Newt is trying for the independent vote which is all well and good. However, he just lost all real conservatives. We'll see how he does, but I think he made a big mistake.

There may not be enough Far right to carry the day barb....yes real conservative by todays measures are far right.
Its ironic the biggest rino of all Romney is raising huge amounts of money, far more than any other and in most polls is the front runner...even after a debate he never attended. It could change, but you would think if a far right candidate was going to be america's choice it would be fairly evident by now.


http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/05/did_mitt_romney_mention_that_h.html
 
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There may not be enough Far right to carry the day barb....yes real conservative by todays measures are far right.
Its ironic the biggest rino of all Romney is raising huge amounts of money, far more than any other and in most polls is the front runner...even after a debate he never attended. It could change, but you would think if a far right candidate was going to be america's choice it would be fairly evident by now.

Barb has put all her marbles with Herman Cain. I'm pretty sure she doesn't get why Romney is the conservative front runner and will be the one most likey to win the primary.
 
You have to admire Barb for her gutsy stand on Cain. Any Cain supporter has to intellectually know the tremendous odds he faces but they will not fade or shrink. I think its kind of cool.
 
You have to admire Barb for her gutsy stand on Cain. Any Cain supporter has to intellectually know the tremendous odds he faces but they will not fade or shrink. I think its kind of cool.

Possibly, though Barb has bet me (avatar display of my choice for her for a year) that Cain will beat Obama. Is that gutsy, or would there be another term to describe it? :sun
 
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Charismatic Leader(Obama) vs. Daniels.

Why start out with a heavy handicap?

what makes you think his "charisma" extends beyond those already in his camp? has he moved the American people's opinion on a single policy of substance?
 
what makes you think his "charisma" extends beyond those already in his camp? has he moved the American people's opinion on a single policy of substance?

I'm boiling down basic traits here cp, Daniels IMHO lacks that charismatic charm, the ability to inspire. Obama, for all his faults HAS it, even if it's losing it's magic.
 
It looks like Newt is trying for the independent vote which is all well and good. However, he just lost all real conservatives. We'll see how he does, but I think he made a big mistake.

The world has gone crazy when REAL conservatives think Newt is too liberal. :coffeepap
 
You have to admire Barb for her gutsy stand on Cain. Any Cain supporter has to intellectually know the tremendous odds he faces but they will not fade or shrink. I think its kind of cool.

Reminds me of liberals cheering for Ron Paul on the sidelines....
 
It was the "in" thing to do during 2007-2008. The sort of, "The Republican party used to stand for ______, _______, and ______. Their former glory has faded with the Bush administration. Although an underdog, Ron Paul represents those glory days. It is hard not to admire Paul's strength and message." Romanticism of the previous decades, exaggeration of the power of more libertarian-minded Republicans, etc etc. It was the fad of liberalism only a short time ago.
 
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Newt was tolerated at best in the conservative camp because he always opened his mouth before thinking about what he was saying. His time was over and his so called resurgence was a false front of him being a "conservative leader". That was nominally true so long as he didnt shoot another conservative in the foot. Gingrinch mistakenly assumed his rah rah position made him a leader when he was merely an advisor. Krauthammer was right: hes done.
 
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