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    Re: Glenn Beck rally to "Resotre Courage" In Israel

    no need, Israelis are already courageous people.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Glenn Beck rally to "Resotre Courage" In Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    No, this isn't about restoring Israel's courage, but our courage to stand up for Israel.

    Anyway....I don't really know why he has to spend $5 million on another rally and in Israel of all places. Seems like a waste of time and money to me.
    Israel is probably the most stood up for country in this country, except for our country (say that three times fast ). I see that as evidence that the courage is already there.
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    Re: Glenn Beck rally to "Resotre Courage" In Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Israel is probably the most stood up for country in this country, except for our country (say that three times fast ). I see that as evidence that the courage is already there.
    Perhaps he should try conducting his rally in the U.K. instead.
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    Re: Glenn Beck rally to "Resotre Courage" In Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Perhaps he should try conducting his rally in the U.K. instead.
    I would be for that, such a thing would be hilarious in its results.

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    Re: Glenn Beck rally to "Resotre Courage" In Israel

    To clarify Beck's point..................

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    no need, Israelis are already courageous people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    No, this isn't about restoring Israel's courage, but our courage to stand up for Israel.


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    Re: Glenn Beck rally to "Resotre Courage" In Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    To clarify Beck's point..................
    I think the question is why do we need to stand up for Israel when Israel is perfectly capable of standing up for itself?

    Does America hold a rally to "stand in support" for the Los Angeles Lakers when they win the championship?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Glenn Beck rally to "Resotre Courage" In Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I think the question is why do we need to stand up for Israel when Israel is perfectly capable of standing up for itself?
    I have the same question. As I said, I think this is a waste of time and money.


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    Re: Glenn Beck rally to "Resotre Courage" In Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I find the use of that phrase disturbing.
    Do you now?


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    Re: Glenn Beck rally to "Resotre Courage" In Israel

    I believe I've been asked to stand in Jerusalem.
    Then go ****ing stand there. LOL, this guy is always flailing around for a new angle to get people to "follow" him somewhere. What a huckster.

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    I hate how this type of Christian fundie pledges their undying support to Israel so that the jews can be wiped out when Jesus returns and fulfill Biblical prophecy.

    Cos, you know, it's such a crock if ****. Beck and his like are quite happy to see the Jews annihilated as long as it's done by God's representative.

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