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    Re: Tenn. Tea Party Wants Slavery Removed From Textbooks?

    Yes, black founders.


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    Re: Tenn. Tea Party Wants Slavery Removed From Textbooks?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Well slavery obscures the founding fathers words of "all men are created equal".
    By "men" they meant "white males who own property". It's only later that people with excess melanin and even estrogen in their bodies came to be considered equal, and only after a struggle.
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    Re: Tenn. Tea Party Wants Slavery Removed From Textbooks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Yes, black founders.
    Name one black man who singed the Declaration of Independence. Voted to ratify the U.S. Constitution. Or the Bill of Rights.

    And sleeping with a black slave does not make you black. Cool and hip and ahead of your time, but not black.

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    Re: Tenn. Tea Party Wants Slavery Removed From Textbooks?

    As usual the Leftwing Koolaid drinkers did not actually READ what the article said...

    “No portrayal of minority experience in the history which actually occurred shall obscure the experience or contributions of the Founding Fathers, or the majority of citizens, including those who reached positions of leadership.”

    “The thing we need to focus on about the founders is that, given the social structure of their time, they were revolutionaries who brought liberty into a world where it hadn’t existed, to everybody — not all equally instantly — and it was their progress that we need to look at,”

    Nobody said "remove" anything...haymarket, are you REALLY that hate filled?
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    Re: Tenn. Tea Party Wants Slavery Removed From Textbooks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Which is only half the story. They wrote that in there because most wanted an end to slavery. What's wrong with telling the whole story?
    Who says that? From my colloege government classes way back when, the phrase was put in by a more liberal element, and it didn't have anything to do with slaves at all. They largely meant white male property holders as being equal. But I'm open to any evidence you have that the phrase was put in to lead to ending slavery.

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    Re: Tenn. Tea Party Wants Slavery Removed From Textbooks?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Name one black man who singed the Declaration of Independence. Voted to ratify the U.S. Constitution. Or the Bill of Rights.
    Many helped us win independence from Britain, putting their lives in danger in order for this country to exist. I'd say that qualifies them.

    And sleeping with a black slave does not make you black. Cool and hip and ahead of your time, but not black.
    This doesn't deserve a comment. Ridiculous.


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    Re: Tenn. Tea Party Wants Slavery Removed From Textbooks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Many helped us win independence from Britain, putting their lives in danger in order for this country to exist. I'd say that qualifies them. .

    They also fought for the British. Just from a quick search:

    Freedom for Blacks

    White Americans were divided over the issue of who to support at the outset of the American Revolution. Some historians estimate that 1/3 of the population were patriots, 1/3 were Loyalists and 1/3 were neutral but it probably varied from region to region. New York state and the Carolina's were big Loyalist centers with regiments of Loyalists soldiers forming from there and neutrality only works when there's no army in your vicinity.
    For African Americans, what mattered most was Freedom. As the war spread through each region of the country, those in bondage sided with whichever Army promised them their personal liberty.
    he British actively recruited slaves belonging to Patriot masters and thus more blacks fought for the Crown. The estimate of the slave population at the beginning of the Revolution is about 400,000 to 500,000 - or 20% of the population. An estimated 80,000 to 100,000 slaves escaped, died or were killed during the American Revolution again, about 20% of the slave population. About 10,000 blacks were recruited and fought for the British side and about 5,000 blacks fought for the American side.



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    In Conclusion, there were five ways for blacks to serve during the American Revolution. 1) Free blacks could enlist for bounties. 2) Runaway slaves could lie about their status and join. 3) Slaves could serve as substitutes for white masters. 4) Slaves could be bought by State governments and freed upon service. (All New England States followed PA's lead and abolished slavery in their new State Constitutions.) and 5) Slaves could escape to the British or Germans. One account has black men dying at Yorktown fighting for the Americans, for the French, for the British and for the Germans.



    Black Soldiers and Sailors during the American Revolution

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    Re: Tenn. Tea Party Wants Slavery Removed From Textbooks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Who says that? From my colloege government classes way back when, the phrase was put in by a more liberal element, and it didn't have anything to do with slaves at all. They largely meant white male property holders as being equal. But I'm open to any evidence you have that the phrase was put in to lead to ending slavery.
    This has been discussed ad nauseum when he talked about the 3/5 compromise. I'll link you up...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-m...y-wrong-5.html


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    Re: Tenn. Tea Party Wants Slavery Removed From Textbooks?

    Yes, some fought for the British as well. Thank you for the research, winston.


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    Re: Tenn. Tea Party Wants Slavery Removed From Textbooks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Yes, some fought for the British as well. Thank you for the research, winston.

    ABout twice as many it looks like. And at first there were barriers put up by the Americans to them serving:

    At first it appeared that when George Washington took command of the Continental Army, he barred the further recruitment of black soldiers, even though many blacks had fought side by side with whites at Lexington & Concord and Bunker Hill (Washington, being a Southerner and a slave owner and assuming command in Massachusetts). But Washington actually allowed free blacks who had fought to re-enlist in 1775-76. The Continental Congress and most states except for Virginia in the Summer/Fall of 1776 barred the recruitment of blacks whether free or slave. The decision was taken out of his hands.

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