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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    How would you market a cure that uses medications whose patents have expired? If you could do that, you too could get into the pharma business and make a billion.
    This from you? Formulas and processes are protected, not just physical items. The stuff in between new chemicals and IP.
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Disagree. I think you are underestimating the the monetary value of prolonged treatment.
    To who? The company? Are you on about capitalism or corporatist CT?

    Typical extremist.
    I am extreme. I'm not typical, by any measure. Don't be so Obama.
    You are making my argument for me... which is really all I am doing. You seem to claim that profit is the sole motivation.
    I don't claim it is the sole motivation, I claim it is sufficient motivation.
    If that is the case, it makes no sense for a company to eliminate a massive amount of their profits... long term profits for a one shot money-maker.
    I make the case that the one shot is SO BIG that future payments become someone else's concern.
    You seem to be expousing is a PURE form of capitalism, which is as absurd as socialism. THAT is what I am pointing out and what you are helping me to point out.
    I'm glad you once again use the word 'seems'. I was not writing that 'pure' capitalism is the only reason that this conspiracy would be exposed. I was writing that profit, alone, was sufficient enough motive to expose the conspiracy. There are other reasons, as human nature is drawn to fortune, fame and long life; however, those motives can be left aside as the mere profit motive is sufficient. To deny a whistleblower in the face of the ability to cure cancer is not much different than denying a whistleblower in the case of truther or birther.

    Now, we could discuss the other motives for exposing any such conspiracy. We can just leave it that profit alone puts this socialist propaganda into the CT section of the forum.

    Enough nonsense. Serious, don't be a CTr.


    ps. If one must play with this CT, for whatever agenda, do it with something smaller than cancer or one just looks dumb.
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    NRM: Quacks pervert U of A doc's discovery


    fwiw the wiki says phase two human trials have been completed
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Medicor Cancer Centres - DCA Therapy


    also from the wiki

    Recognizing anticipated funding challenges, Dr Michelakis's lab took the unorthodox step of directly soliciting online donations to fund the research.[32] After 6 months, his lab had raised over $800,000, enough to fund a small Clinical Phase 2 study. Dr. Michelakis and Dr. Archer have applied for a patent on the use of DCA in the treatment of cancer.[33][34]
    On 24 September 2007, the Department of Medicine of Alberta University reported that after the trial funding was secured, both the Alberta local ethics committee and Health Canada approved the first DCA clinical trial for cancer.[35] This initial trial is relatively small with enrollment of up to 50 patients.
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    this idiocy should be moved to the conspiracy theory forum. this is as idiotic as 9/11 truth and birther bs.

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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    It is clear that DCA is an intriguing drug - one of many currently being investigated by scientists around the world. It will be interesting to see the results of more extensive lab-based experiments and larger clinical trials of DCA. And cancer cell metabolism is certainly a productive area of research that we're actively funding.
    The fact that DCA is off-patent is no barrier to its development as a treatment for cancer. For example, Cancer Research UK has secured a licence for an off-patent drug called fenretinide, which could be used to treat rare childhood cancers. And there is certainly no "conspiracy" by pharmaceutical companies to prevent research into DCA - there is just not enough evidence at the moment to support its widespread use to treat patients.

    While these results are intriguing, it is unlikely that this one compound represents "the cure" for cancer - and it is also unlikely that DCA is the "wonder drug" that the headlines portray. Cancer is a complex and multi-faceted disease, and it can be caused by a range of different faults within the cell. It is unlikely that any single drug could ever treat all forms of the disease.

    There are many promising new treatments for cancer currently in development, funded by organisations across the globe - including Cancer Research UK. If anything, these new results show why research is so important in bringing safe and effective treatments to people with cancer - they don't provide definitive answers, but they support further investigations which may yield benefits for patients in the future.
    Here is an article from last year discussing the possibility of DCA being used.

    Dichloroacetate not yet an effective treatment for aggressive brain cancer : Terra Sigillata
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    A more accurate thread title would be "Preliminary results are hopeful that a cancer cure may have been discovered, but more studies are needed to confirm."

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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This is why government funding is so very important in the medical field.

    Should companies bury cures to maintain profit on purpose, the CEO's of those companies should be arrested and executed in my opinion.

    A little too regressive for some people?

    I could live with it.
    By this line of logic, car companies should be arrested and executed (I didn't even know you were pro death penalty) for failing to make cars that top out at 25mph because doing that would clearly save lives.
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Not in the least. You keep developing "new" treatment drugs, that keep costing more and more. It keeps the train rolling. Once you have a cure, that's it. Nothing new. Initially, there would be lots of money to be made, but eventually, that dries up.
    This doesn't make sense, CC. How does finding a cure for cancer mean people won't still continue to get cancer and therefore need the treatment?

    And the kind of capitalism you are presenting has one purpose: profit at any cost, regardless of the impact.
    Yes, I know, the profit motive is absolutely detestable to some, but, like it or not, it is a very effective motivator and some very good things have come about because of it.
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    this idiocy should be moved to the conspiracy theory forum. this is as idiotic as 9/11 truth and birther bs.
    That's ridiculous. The study is still in its early stages and shouldn't be discounted yet. It is certainly news worthy.
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