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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    They could, but why would they? What would be the benefit in profit terms were this to happen? I think it would have a negative effect on profits, don't you?

    The bucks they make are not quick, they take many years and much research to achieve, and they are not doing this for the benefit of society at large, but to make a profit. Any benefit they provide to the wider society is a serendipitous by-product of making money. That's why it's called capitalism, because it's driven by the concerns of capital i.e. investment money.

    Of course it is, but that it the system that most people here seem to believe is indispensible to the well-being of human society. Go figure.



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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    As of April 2009, 159 (89%) patients had stopped treatment with DCA while 20 (11%) were continuing treatment. This is not a static number and you can get an idea of the current numbers from the Live Update page.

    Thanks for the info, I had not been aware of this DCA stuff.

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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I wouldn't go that far. You can't blame private pharmaceutical corporations for doing what they are created to do. They are not in business to find cures for cancer, but to make profits for their investors (obviously a much more important goal) and I'm not even being ironic.

    This is why free-market capitalism is incapable of providing everything that society requires.
    Yes because no start up company would market one of the most successful treatments known to man kind, nope not at all....

    Sprinkle a little news about a potential cure and you guys run with your political imaginations.
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    if its truly revolutionary it should probably get funding from cancer charities, i bet it would if this story got spread to all of them. Those guys could get a lot of money through that.

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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Oh and if anyone truly believes that nonsense, ask yourself why Aspirin and Tylenol still produce their signature OTC medicines, even though they are also out of patent protection.

    I eagerly await to hear you back that up.
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Oh and if anyone truly believes that nonsense, ask yourself why Aspirin and Tylenol still produce their signature OTC medicines, even though they are also out of patent protection.

    I eagerly await to hear you back that up.
    Because they have strong brands that are possible to use to generate sales of OEM.

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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    They could, but why would they? What would be the benefit in profit terms were this to happen? I think it would have a negative effect on profits, don't you?

    The bucks they make are not quick, they take many years and much research to achieve, and they are not doing this for the benefit of society at large, but to make a profit. Any benefit they provide to the wider society is a serendipitous by-product of making money. That's why it's called capitalism, because it's driven by the concerns of capital i.e. investment money.

    Of course it is, but that it the system that most people here seem to believe is indispensible to the well-being of human society. Go figure.



    To me, you appear to be getting frustrated at the natural operation of the current system. I think your ire would best be directed at the fundaments of the system, not its consequences.
    Which is why I end my post with "Idealism and the way things should be"

    You're quite right about all that, but I don't need a lesson in capitalism, which is why all my posts like that come with the bottom disclaimer, and besides, in my first post I specifically said "Bury cures on purpose"... not "choose not to pursue them"

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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Oh and if anyone truly believes that nonsense, ask yourself why Aspirin and Tylenol still produce their signature OTC medicines, even though they are also out of patent protection.

    I eagerly await to hear you back that up.
    Because they built up the brand recognition with their patents, and peoples still buy that brand because of the brand.
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by William Rea View Post
    Because they have strong brands that are possible to use to generate sales of OEM.
    Riiiight and so no other well known pharmaceutical company could do the same?
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    All of the above (Statist) rhetoric points tothe same thing: If a private company could cure cancer, they would. Why? Because all of their stakeholders would become instant millionaires - business success.

    Would you rather have a business that makes a million over 10 years, or make 1 billion right now? Are we to believe that some people CHOOSE 1 million over 10 years just to protect the profits of others? Capitalist motivation insists that a cure is the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, and that everyone is trying for it. No one is going to leave the pot of gold there so that the rest can enjoy the rainbow.
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