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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Skip the lecture, ok? You're the only one who's wringing his hands. The discussion's been a good one.
    I noticed you ignored the rest of the post, that address the issue from the OP. Not a shock.
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And all I see is the typical naivate and inability to see the big picture of a libertarian. One issue affects many other issues. Isolating one thing from everything else is neither how society operates or how people operate... even capitalists. It's something very basic that extreme libertarians never seem to understand. The belief that things like this live in a vacuum, as you seem to be suggesting is far more like a conspiracy theory than anyting that I am saying.

    Now, if you want to discuss this seriously, I'm around. If you just want to spew silly extreme libertarianism that has no basis in reality... I'll just dismiss it.

    It seems you will be holding to the argument that capitalism is preventing a cure for cancer?

    Also, what's with the libertarian stuff? I'm pretty sure that this particular debate is only an economic issue (the profit motive). Are there social liberties involved? Anyway, I'm not a libertarian even if I defend capitalism against nonsense. If you bring some ridiculous crap against socialism, I'll defend it and next you'll be calling me is an extreme communist.
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    I didn't mean it as in "that once someone has cancer they can't be cured", but that as long our cells continue to divide people will develop cancer

    PS and isn't mutation a byproduct of cell division?
    Not necessarily. Mutations do occur during DNA replication, but they aren't the typical major cause for them. The DNA polymerase makes a few mistakes (after all, it is copying several billion DNA base pairs). However, carcinogens also cause DNA damage. Carcinogens can mutate DNA along with radiation and several other things. It's mainly carcinogens that influence DNA mutations that lead to cancer in my opinion.
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Well, we know you have a computer or some such similar device, so...
    I could be using a public library or a friend's computer.

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    Oil is the most economically feasible energy source for transportation.
    Alternatives can't match up.
    Which field of alternative energy are you an expert in again?


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    Riiiight.
    Riiight what? Would I need to live in the middle of the rain forest in a shack before I wouldn't be considered materialistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    If you are going to alter the definition in THIS way, it changes the argument. We have been discussing monetary profits. Are you now discussing this alteration?



    Hmmm... so, since the medical business profits, monetarily from the individual being sick and needing treatment, which would the medical business profit from more... a complete cure, or continuing treatment?



    People are victims of both... if we must use the word "victim".
    The answer should be obvious: Blood transplant appears to cure AIDS. Imagine if all it took was a blood transfusion to cure AIDS. Current costs for the medications to treat AIDS are $20,000 per year. hmmmm.
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    I really think people should never ever trust a journal or newspaper article on a scientific paper. They almost always misrepresent it. They push things for hype and don't tell you the truth of what the science says. Always go and read the primary scientific journal entry and use that as your basis of judgement. I would never trust a news report over anything related to science because they sensationalize everything. There will also never be a "cure for cancer" because each cancer is individual and unique. The future for cancer therapy should be to profile individual cancers and treat them as individuals instead of going to the big med school book of oncology and treating with the 3 chemo drugs that the book says to use for breast cancer, etc...
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    I posted the actual study way back: http://tansleyaes.com/articles/DCA_cancer_treatment.pdf
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I appreciate that too . I also gave my interpretation of the article a few posts back. You're a wise koala spud.
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I appreciate that too . I also gave my interpretation of the article a few posts back. You're a wise koala spud.
    Not wise enough to translate that study.
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'll do my best to explain it
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    Holy hell, I understood enough of that to get what you were saying, 2 years of falling asleep in biology class at school finally payed off. Thanks Digs.
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    Re: Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Holy hell, I understood enough of that to get what you were saying, 2 years of falling asleep in biology class at school finally payed off. Thanks Digs.
    See, don't discredit yourself. Scientists aren't English majors (as I re-read that post I cringed at my grammar mistakes haha). Once you learn the acronyms and terminology it isn't so bad.
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