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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    A right to medical care, this isn't health care because that is hugely broad subject, means that someone else has to pay for it and someone else has to provide the physical labor, for you.

    Like insurance, where the healthy pay for the ill.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    A right to medical care, this isn't health care because that is hugely broad subject, means that someone else has to pay for it and someone else has to provide the physical labor, for you.
    But how is this akin slavery? Anyone in healthcare can quit their job, a slave cannot. I respect the right for a doctor to refuse someone service, but that doesn't mean another doctor can't see that individual. A right to healthcare does not mean any patient can order a doctor to see them immediately. It means that they have the right to access healthcare.

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    i thought you were FOR universal healthcare.
    I am, my comment was sarcastic.
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i thought you were FOR universal healthcare.
    I believe he was being sarcastic.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Like insurance, where the healthy pay for the ill.
    Like car insurance where the good drivers pay for the bad...the list just goes on...its always been that way and always will be

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    A right to medical care, this isn't health care because that is hugely broad subject, means that someone else has to pay for it
    That's no different than any other public service.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla
    and someone else has to provide the physical labor, for you.
    Not unless the government puts a gun to someone's head, forces them to go to medical school, and forces them to treat specific patients without compensation. Aside from that, doctors are free to provide (or not provide) the physical labor for someone's health care, and they'll be compensated for it. If they don't like the amount of compensation they're receiving, they are free to take up a different specialty, move to a better-paying area, or retire.
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Like insurance, where the healthy pay for the ill.
    Insurance is voluntary and still reserves the person to self ownership.
    Systems with mandatory UHC, still ration medical care on price, only you do not get to chose what price that is, the government does.
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Insurance is voluntary and still reserves the person to self ownership.
    Systems with mandatory UHC, still ration medical care on price, only you do not get to chose what price that is, the government does.
    It's a good thing we don't have UHC then isn't it? To that, Rand Paul was speaking out of his butt.

    Next headline, please...

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    But how is this akin slavery? Anyone in healthcare can quit their job, a slave cannot. I respect the right for a doctor to refuse someone service, but that doesn't mean another doctor can't see that individual. A right to healthcare does not mean any patient can order a doctor to see them immediately. It means that they have the right to access healthcare.
    Everyone already has the right to access medical care.
    I was not equating this to slavery.

    Btw, Health care is not medical care.
    Health care involves personal daily habits (diet, exercise, etc.) not associated with medical treatment.
    You know the other stuff that has more of an effect on well being than medical care.
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    That's no different than any other public service.
    Two wrongs don't make a right.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Not unless the government puts a gun to someone's head, forces them to go to medical school, and forces them to treat specific patients without compensation. Aside from that, doctors are free to provide (or not provide) the physical labor for someone's health care, and they'll be compensated for it. If they don't like the amount of compensation they're receiving, they are free to take up a different specialty, move to a better-paying area, or retire.
    Why should someone be forced to quit their job because the government decides to fundamentally alter the activities related to their career choice?
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Two wrongs don't make a right.

    Why should someone be forced to quit their job because the government decides to fundamentally alter the activities related to their career choice?
    Because the possibility that the market will change is a risk that you take with ANY career?
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