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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    if you believe you have a right to someones labor, you do support a position that is very much "like slavery"

    I understand the hand-wringing, it sucks for you because this makes you a bad person.
    He would be paid, paid, and not forced at all. No one is told they have to treat anyone. A complete lack of understanding on his part is sad. If he choose to treat someone he would be paid. There is nothing liek slavery going on.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    you never supported his positions, and you clearly have no ability to understand the mindset of people that did support his opinions. so what you just wrote, is pure bull****.
    Now, I have no idea what to make of this post, but stupid is stupid no matter who throws it out there.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    He would be paid, paid, and not forced at all. No one is told they have to treat anyone. A complete lack of understanding on his part is sad. If he choose to treat someone he would be paid. There is nothing liek slavery going on.

    Sorry, once you determine you have a right to someones labor, the natural progression is to have a say in who he treats, how much he charges, etc, etc.

    History shows that the progressive movement is full of liars. The Civil Rights movement won’t amount to quotas. The 16th amendment was to soak the rich, not tax labor, and a right to healthcare won’t dictate the amount DR’s charge.

    I don’t believe a ****ing word you guys say anymore. You have proved you will say or do anything to get your foot in the door.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Sorry, once you determine you have a right to someones labor, the natural progression is to have a say in who he treats, how much he charges, etc, etc.

    History shows that the progressive movement is full of liars. The Civil Rights movement won’t amount to quotas. The 16th amendment was to soak the rich, not tax labor, and a right to healthcare won’t dictate the amount DR’s charge.

    I don’t believe a ****ing word you guys say anymore. You have proved you will say or do anything to get your foot in the door.
    I'm afraid you're wrong. The "right", which is the wrong word, is not to someone specifics labor. It is to the care. Someone will willingly provide the care for money. No one will be forced to provide it.

    The rest of your post is completely incoherent.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    for the love of god. slavery is a concept that is not actually tied to race.
    Tell that to the hundreds of Black people who escaped from the south via the Underground Railroad.

    But I digress...

    I understand that you believe Rand Paul's commentary was equated to the economic and selective process of the health care system, but as I've pointed out nothing about the PPACA remotely resembles choices being taken away from the soverignty of the States or the liberty of the people. You still have a choice to get health insurnace if you can afford to do so or not get it. Just understand that if you don't get it you will pay a tax penalty for your choice. But in exercising that choice, NO ONE is holding a gun to your head telling you which doctor to see, what treatment to receive, or when to receive said treatment. I know he was referring to Universal health care, but again that's not what the PPACA provides. But even if it did, it wouldn't be "slavery" on any level because we all would be paying into the system.

    Therefore, for Rand Paul to equate slavery to health care in general, Universal health care or the PPACA not only is foolish but intellectually dishonest. This notwithstanding, I have to wonder why someone you defend as not being a racist certainly seems to make alot of comments concerning either the non-inclusion of people from certain racial backgrounds or speaks in such oppressive terms of the establishment. I can only surmise that he's not a firm believing in pluralism with such commentary.
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Like is a comparison, and it is not like slavery in any way. Any one who says it is is saying some really stupid ****.
    Really. Well that's your opinion and you are welcome to it. I disagree. If you believe you have a RIGHT to some item, service or the like, then you are in fact compelling another person to provide it for you. What would happen Boo. if all the doctors in a city were to go on strike? Those that believe there is this mythical "right" to healthcare would then do what?

    Hmm?
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    stupid straw man example. courts have ruled we don't have a right to police protection, or to an education. or to roads, etc, etc.

    progressives are saying we do have a right to healthcare though.
    So then, your problem with UHC is just a matter of semantics. And as long as people don't claim health care is a "right", you'll be perfectly content with it, just as you are with those other services?
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm afraid you're wrong. The "right", which is the wrong word, is not to someone specifics labor. It is to the care. Someone will willingly provide the care for money. No one will be forced to provide it.

    The rest of your post is completely incoherent.
    More progressive bs.

    Once you claim you have a right to something that requires labor, the path has been set.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So then, your problem with UHC is just a matter of semantics. And as long as people don't claim health care is a "right", you'll be perfectly content with it, just as you are with those other services?
    Semantics? I wish this was an issue of semantics. The word right carries significant meaning in this country, by attempting to label this as a right is a political maneuver to advance a cause.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    More progressive bs.

    Once you claim you have a right to something that requires labor, the path has been set.
    Not forced labor. Slavery is about forced labor. No one is required to provide the service. And anyone who choose to provide it will be paid for doing so. Come one, think this through.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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