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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    No one forces another person to be an attorney... you may try to spin it, but sorry, your analogy doesn't work... if you force a lawyer to give his time and labor to someone he/she doesn't want to, then that is no different than Senator Paul's STUPID assertion that believing in the right to health care access is akin to slavery... you know, we have national health care in Taiwan, and I have several friends who are doctors, but they establish private practices under the guidelines of the law (U.S. practitioners also have to set up their own private practices in accordance with the law) and are well compensated for it. No one I know considers this akin to 'slavery'.
    you in the habit of repeating the same bs over and over, because that is all you are doing, (minus the mind boringly personal anecdote)

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    That isn't what the right to health care means, or as it's being pursued. The discussion is about the government providing health care, via single payer, not showing up at the doctor's office and demanding it. How disingenuous of him.
    i always find this argument interesting. We aren't talking about forcing the doctor to work to provide health care to people, we are just talking about forcing others to work to pay the doctor to provide heath care. What's the difference?
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    i always find this argument interesting. We aren't talking about forcing the doctor to work to provide health care to people, we are just talking about forcing others to work to pay the doctor to provide heath care. What's the difference?
    You might want to be a little clearer. I think I know what you're trying to say, but not sure. However, as for us paying for others, we do that now, before reform. Even if we took all tax dollars out of health care, we'd still be paying for others.

    Th point is, we should be so free with how we define slavery that the word holds no meaning. Already people are doing that with the word socialism and if we keep it up, words will lose all meaning and we will be using all kinds of words to mean things they were never intended to mean. This will likely hinder communication, which is already difficult.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Brilliance that resonates from the Founding.......God Bless Rand Paul......

    The Right to the fruits of another's labor.......the Fundamnetal Right and foundation of the Democrat Party.
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    I wonder if Rand Paul remembers the Hippocratic Oath he took? Rand Paul and the rest of the tea baggers are nothing more then errand boys and girls for the Koch Brothers

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You might want to be a little clearer. I think I know what you're trying to say, but not sure. However, as for us paying for others, we do that now, before reform. Even if we took all tax dollars out of health care, we'd still be paying for others.

    Th point is, we should be so free with how we define slavery that the word holds no meaning. Already people are doing that with the word socialism and if we keep it up, words will lose all meaning and we will be using all kinds of words to mean things they were never intended to mean. This will likely hinder communication, which is already difficult.
    If we told doctors they would have to provides their services to patients for free or be imprisoned, no one would tolerate it. It would be slavery. Even if we told them to work 1/2 a day for free and the other half paid. We would be forcing a person to work against his will.
    However the government ask others to work a certain number of hours for free in order to pay the doctor to perform the healthcare. This enslaves these workers the same way. We become property to be used at the behest of the government.

    Well, I guess we could just not work and the government would pay us instead.
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    If we told doctors they would have to provides their services to patients for free or be imprisoned, no one would tolerate it. It would be slavery. Even if we told them to work 1/2 a day for free and the other half paid. We would be forcing a person to work against his will.
    However the government ask others to work a certain number of hours for free in order to pay the doctor to perform the healthcare. This enslaves these workers the same way. We become property to be used at the behest of the government.

    Well, I guess we could just not work and the government would pay us instead.
    That is complete nonsense. I assume you mean paying your taxes is working for free. That too is nonsense. Just as we use taxes to pay for departments, we can use them to pay for adequate health care. And no one is in slavery.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    you in the habit of repeating the same bs over and over, because that is all you are doing, (minus the mind boringly personal anecdote)
    And you simply continue to repeat the tripe that doctors are forced to be slaves by the notion that people have the right to health care... if you repeat the same BS over and over again, I will have to point out the absurdity of your BS...
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Paul has a lot of ideas I agree with such as drastically defending homeland security and foreign aid but this is a silly comment.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And you simply continue to repeat the tripe that doctors are forced to be slaves by the notion that people have the right to health care... if you repeat the same BS over and over again, I will have to point out the absurdity of your BS...
    repeat? If I said the bull**** you just posted, it would be the first time, not a repeat.

    I wonder if Tom Hanks had to spend months and months explaining to simpletons that he never said life was a box of chocolates.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Right To Health Care Is Like Believing In "Slavery"

    I guess I am a slave too since I post on this forum and don't get paid. Well, that is, if you are a complete idiot and with the level of logic only attained by Rand Paul.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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